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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 492152" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>The NF NXS is the way to go period. If you're planning on 1200 yds, I would recommend the 5-5-22x5 which is what I have. I could not be happier. I have slammed my full body weight on it twice now in the field and it operates perfectly.</p><p></p><p>The range finder is going to be your short straw. The Swaroand and Leica 1600 both have mixed reviews with some very happy with each and some not so happy. I have both the 1200 and 1600 Leica's and they are spotty rangers. The 1600 is better than the 1200 and it gives you angle of shot (meaning you don't have to buy and mount an angle indicator) and, temp and pressure which means you don't have to buy and carry a weather station. Short side... they work best in low light conditons such as early morning and early evening to dusk. During the day, it's tough to get 1000 yd readings from the 1600, especially on animals. If you want real reliability, then the Vectronics for $3K is your best bet. On the G7, I would sat that's a big if for right now, but if it does what is claimed, it would be great. Right now, they are only planning to put the yardage version out for sure and "maybe" the MOA version. The yardage version is useless to me, so I will wait until they or someone else puts out an MOA/Mil version.</p><p></p><p>For 1200 yd shooting, the 300 WM is just not enough. You're better off with a 338 which will deliver a big and destructive payload down range. I am planning on doing a 338 LM Imp sometime in the future.</p><p></p><p>That being said, I am getting a 300-338 Ultra made for my primary hunting. I've jumped around from 300-375 Ruger, 300 Dakota and 300-338 ULtra, and I'm settling on the later. I have given this build a lot of thought and I'm going to take advantage of every LR enhancement I can. Starting with a Brought 5C barrel which many have reported better velocity with and only about 3-4 months lead time. My primary hunting bullet will be GS HV 177's which are a driveband, bore riding monometal that produce velocities about 100 fps faster than other bullets of same weight. On top of that, they are precision turned on CNC lathes with almost zero deviation in form or weight. You just can't beat that for shot to shot consistency. They have an advertised BC of .6 plus from 3300 fps to 1600 fps and their minimum opening velocity is 1600 fps vs 1800 fps of most other bullets. I will be pushing these bullets with RL17 and based on my experiences with this powder in other rifles, should produce excellent velocities. I fully expect to see 3500-3600 fps with these bullets in this chambering, possibly more, which will increase the bullets G1 BC. One other thing I will do is to get the barrel nitrided which will greatly increase it's life and also increase velocity.</p><p></p><p>The GS 177's @ 3600 fps @ 1200 yds @ 5000' elevation will have...</p><p></p><p>2017 vel, 1600 ftlbs KE, 243"/19.4 MOA drop, 59" wind drift/10mph</p><p></p><p>Compared to the 300 Hybrid out of an EDGE @ 2850 fps...</p><p></p><p>1798 vel, 2152 ftlbs KE, 360"/28.6 MOA drop, 58" wind drift/10mph, </p><p></p><p>The 300 Hybrid has more KE but is at the end of it's minimum velocity effective range. Theoretically, the GS 177's max effective range in this scenario is 1600 yds. I used a lot of space here to emphasize using a good strategy for your LR goals.</p><p></p><p>I am going to build my rifle on a Vanguard/Howa action or Rem 700, because I have them and am doing a budget build. If there is an extended mag box available for the Howa that will hold the cartridge, I'll go with the Howa. For custom actions, my first two choices are Defiance and Borden. There a lot of good ones out there. For a 338 build, I would definitely go with a custom action and use Lapua brass (read 338 LM or LM Imp).</p><p></p><p>-Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 492152, member: 11717"] The NF NXS is the way to go period. If you're planning on 1200 yds, I would recommend the 5-5-22x5 which is what I have. I could not be happier. I have slammed my full body weight on it twice now in the field and it operates perfectly. The range finder is going to be your short straw. The Swaroand and Leica 1600 both have mixed reviews with some very happy with each and some not so happy. I have both the 1200 and 1600 Leica's and they are spotty rangers. The 1600 is better than the 1200 and it gives you angle of shot (meaning you don't have to buy and mount an angle indicator) and, temp and pressure which means you don't have to buy and carry a weather station. Short side... they work best in low light conditons such as early morning and early evening to dusk. During the day, it's tough to get 1000 yd readings from the 1600, especially on animals. If you want real reliability, then the Vectronics for $3K is your best bet. On the G7, I would sat that's a big if for right now, but if it does what is claimed, it would be great. Right now, they are only planning to put the yardage version out for sure and "maybe" the MOA version. The yardage version is useless to me, so I will wait until they or someone else puts out an MOA/Mil version. For 1200 yd shooting, the 300 WM is just not enough. You're better off with a 338 which will deliver a big and destructive payload down range. I am planning on doing a 338 LM Imp sometime in the future. That being said, I am getting a 300-338 Ultra made for my primary hunting. I've jumped around from 300-375 Ruger, 300 Dakota and 300-338 ULtra, and I'm settling on the later. I have given this build a lot of thought and I'm going to take advantage of every LR enhancement I can. Starting with a Brought 5C barrel which many have reported better velocity with and only about 3-4 months lead time. My primary hunting bullet will be GS HV 177's which are a driveband, bore riding monometal that produce velocities about 100 fps faster than other bullets of same weight. On top of that, they are precision turned on CNC lathes with almost zero deviation in form or weight. You just can't beat that for shot to shot consistency. They have an advertised BC of .6 plus from 3300 fps to 1600 fps and their minimum opening velocity is 1600 fps vs 1800 fps of most other bullets. I will be pushing these bullets with RL17 and based on my experiences with this powder in other rifles, should produce excellent velocities. I fully expect to see 3500-3600 fps with these bullets in this chambering, possibly more, which will increase the bullets G1 BC. One other thing I will do is to get the barrel nitrided which will greatly increase it's life and also increase velocity. The GS 177's @ 3600 fps @ 1200 yds @ 5000' elevation will have... 2017 vel, 1600 ftlbs KE, 243"/19.4 MOA drop, 59" wind drift/10mph Compared to the 300 Hybrid out of an EDGE @ 2850 fps... 1798 vel, 2152 ftlbs KE, 360"/28.6 MOA drop, 58" wind drift/10mph, The 300 Hybrid has more KE but is at the end of it's minimum velocity effective range. Theoretically, the GS 177's max effective range in this scenario is 1600 yds. I used a lot of space here to emphasize using a good strategy for your LR goals. I am going to build my rifle on a Vanguard/Howa action or Rem 700, because I have them and am doing a budget build. If there is an extended mag box available for the Howa that will hold the cartridge, I'll go with the Howa. For custom actions, my first two choices are Defiance and Borden. There a lot of good ones out there. For a 338 build, I would definitely go with a custom action and use Lapua brass (read 338 LM or LM Imp). -Mark [/QUOTE]
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