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Lazzeroni Patriot vs. .284 Winchester
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<blockquote data-quote="Outlaw6.0" data-source="post: 831086" data-attributes="member: 23486"><p>As much as it pains me, in your case I'd go with the .284. Here's Why:</p><p> </p><p>I love my Patriot, it was my first "custom" rifle & will always be near & dear to my heart. Why I would not choose it quite frankly, is the 168 Berger.... I just don't get it. A light, highly frangibly bullet @ high velocity (although a good bit slower than it should be) is a recipe for some bad ju-ju (IMHO). </p><p> </p><p>RL-22 has shown pressure issues with my testing in a 243ackley, so you're right on there. What temp did you work up the load in & will it be similar to the temp you're hunting in? I would not be afraid of 15-20fps difference.</p><p> </p><p>Just as a discussion piece, I've been shooting the 168TTSX in my Patriot with RL-17... Velocity is, as of my last test, just north of 3400fps, a solid 200fps over your RL-22 combo. With 3 loads on the cases to boot.</p><p> </p><p>I don't trust the 168Berger on a big muley. Will it work? Probably. Not that same Patriot case with the 190 or 210 Berger is a whole 'nother story. (I have a couple hundred 190's to test- Don't tell Broz <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />).</p><p> </p><p>The 284 is slinging a high BC & just as important, high SD bullet at really good velocity. </p><p> </p><p>Either will probably kill just fine. For this situation, as much as it pains me to say...</p><p> </p><p>I vote for the .284.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>t</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Outlaw6.0, post: 831086, member: 23486"] As much as it pains me, in your case I'd go with the .284. Here's Why: I love my Patriot, it was my first "custom" rifle & will always be near & dear to my heart. Why I would not choose it quite frankly, is the 168 Berger.... I just don't get it. A light, highly frangibly bullet @ high velocity (although a good bit slower than it should be) is a recipe for some bad ju-ju (IMHO). RL-22 has shown pressure issues with my testing in a 243ackley, so you're right on there. What temp did you work up the load in & will it be similar to the temp you're hunting in? I would not be afraid of 15-20fps difference. Just as a discussion piece, I've been shooting the 168TTSX in my Patriot with RL-17... Velocity is, as of my last test, just north of 3400fps, a solid 200fps over your RL-22 combo. With 3 loads on the cases to boot. I don't trust the 168Berger on a big muley. Will it work? Probably. Not that same Patriot case with the 190 or 210 Berger is a whole 'nother story. (I have a couple hundred 190's to test- Don't tell Broz :D). The 284 is slinging a high BC & just as important, high SD bullet at really good velocity. Either will probably kill just fine. For this situation, as much as it pains me to say... I vote for the .284. t [/QUOTE]
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