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Lazz 7.82 Warbird w/190gr Berger VLD
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<blockquote data-quote="LazzInc" data-source="post: 593452" data-attributes="member: 39187"><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Well ,,,, no matter what, it is seldom easy ,,,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">over the last three weeks I have shot around 80 rounds of the 190gr Berger VLD hunting bullet out of two different Lazzeroni Warbird rifles ,,,, both with 12 twist barrels ,,,, one with around 250 rounds thru it, one a brand new model 2012 ,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">used Retumbo powder and Fed 215 primer, NO lubrication on the bullet ,,,,,, seated both ON the lands and .050 off the lands ,,,, ((this made very little if any difference))</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">all accuracy testing done at 300 yards ,,,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">if I shot them at 3200 fps average ,,, 3-shot 300 yard groups were consistent 1 7/8" - 2 3/4" ,,,, not stellar by any means, but workable I think with some fine tuning ,,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">when I sped them up a little to 3375-3400 average ,,, they went all over the place ,,,,, seems that Sako7stw knows what he is talking about in this area ,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I have some 190gr Sierra HPBT on the shelf already NP3 lubed and ready to go ,,,, that will be my next shooting binge, trying IMR-7828 powder instead of the Retumbo since the bullets are lubed well ,,,,, this should also tighten up my shot-to-shot variations ,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Does anyone here have any experience with the 190gr Sierra HPBT on decent sized animals ? ,,,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I am also going to order another box of the Berger 190s and have them NP3 coated, then start again to see if this will help keep the bullet more uniform as it scoots and accelerates down the barrel ,,,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I looked at the differences between the 190gr and the 210/230gr pills in the Warbird out to 1,000 yards ,,, and I just do not see enough advantage to the heavier bullets (in downrange energy & wind drift), to justify the tighter twist and increase in recoil ,,,, not sure all will agree with my opinion ,,,,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I will keep you posted ,,,,,</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LazzInc, post: 593452, member: 39187"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Well ,,,, no matter what, it is seldom easy ,,,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]over the last three weeks I have shot around 80 rounds of the 190gr Berger VLD hunting bullet out of two different Lazzeroni Warbird rifles ,,,, both with 12 twist barrels ,,,, one with around 250 rounds thru it, one a brand new model 2012 ,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]used Retumbo powder and Fed 215 primer, NO lubrication on the bullet ,,,,,, seated both ON the lands and .050 off the lands ,,,, ((this made very little if any difference))[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]all accuracy testing done at 300 yards ,,,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]if I shot them at 3200 fps average ,,, 3-shot 300 yard groups were consistent 1 7/8" - 2 3/4" ,,,, not stellar by any means, but workable I think with some fine tuning ,,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]when I sped them up a little to 3375-3400 average ,,, they went all over the place ,,,,, seems that Sako7stw knows what he is talking about in this area ,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I have some 190gr Sierra HPBT on the shelf already NP3 lubed and ready to go ,,,, that will be my next shooting binge, trying IMR-7828 powder instead of the Retumbo since the bullets are lubed well ,,,,, this should also tighten up my shot-to-shot variations ,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Does anyone here have any experience with the 190gr Sierra HPBT on decent sized animals ? ,,,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I am also going to order another box of the Berger 190s and have them NP3 coated, then start again to see if this will help keep the bullet more uniform as it scoots and accelerates down the barrel ,,,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I looked at the differences between the 190gr and the 210/230gr pills in the Warbird out to 1,000 yards ,,, and I just do not see enough advantage to the heavier bullets (in downrange energy & wind drift), to justify the tighter twist and increase in recoil ,,,, not sure all will agree with my opinion ,,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I will keep you posted ,,,,,[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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