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Larger diameter bullets allow more room for error?
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<blockquote data-quote="Raudy707" data-source="post: 1540623" data-attributes="member: 105681"><p>I have to agree with a lot of the guides opinion's on this thread, bigger does kill better and allows for slight error's but not egregious ones. I also guided 9 years for big game, deer, elk, bears and hogs and ignoring all physics and energy the bigger the hole the harder it is to plug, the more tissue damage and the animal died. Having witnessed over 200 animals harvested I did a lot more tracking on animals that were hit marginally with a 243, 257 and 6.5 mm calibers than I did with 270, 7mm and 30 cal. Why? I don't know scientifically, but I never recommend a 243 for a youth hunter, I always recommend a 7mm-08. I've also slayed the myth that a bullet that goes in and stays in is better than one that exits. This again goes in the face of "energy kills animals" but just in my experience over 30 years and seeing a ton of animals harvested I don't buy into the ft-lbs magic numbers. Two holes are always better than one! The further a bullet travels in an animals body, the more tissue damage, the more lethal it is. Period. Entry holes don't bleed like exit wounds. Exit wounds are difficult to plug up with fat, or hide or feed, but entry holes seal up pretty consistently in large animals. I have a 243 but consider it an experts rifle not a youth hunters caliber. I use a 257 Roberts and 6.5 (260 Rem) on my little blacktail deer and I can't tell you that one is a better killer than the other, but I have lost gut shot deer from those calibers where I recovered the same type of wound from a slow 308 Marlin Express or 32 Special. I feel bullet selection is far more important than energy. I'll take bullet placement, bullet selection and then momentum of a large heavy projectile as the top 3 killers to game animals. Again, this is just a hillbilly's opinion that has seen 100's of animals die, so this is purely from empirical data and doesn't follow scientific numbers. I would consider my opinon objective as I do hunt and own several smaller calibers regularly each year. Do I recommend my 260 Rem for elk hunting? No. For my kids, who are now 18 and 20 and have killed collectively over 20 mule deer and elk, I have my daughter shoot a 7mm-08 with a 150 grain Partition's and my son a 7mm magnum with 160 grain Accubonds. We've never lost an animal, but we don't shoot over 500 yards at big game animals. So the placement is typically good, the bullet type works well from zero to 500 yards and the majority are pass through's which equals maximum tissue damage and beating a dead horse I believe 2 holes let's the air out of a balloon faster than one. So I will agree, on marginal hits, bigger bullets can kill better than a smaller bullets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raudy707, post: 1540623, member: 105681"] I have to agree with a lot of the guides opinion's on this thread, bigger does kill better and allows for slight error's but not egregious ones. I also guided 9 years for big game, deer, elk, bears and hogs and ignoring all physics and energy the bigger the hole the harder it is to plug, the more tissue damage and the animal died. Having witnessed over 200 animals harvested I did a lot more tracking on animals that were hit marginally with a 243, 257 and 6.5 mm calibers than I did with 270, 7mm and 30 cal. Why? I don't know scientifically, but I never recommend a 243 for a youth hunter, I always recommend a 7mm-08. I've also slayed the myth that a bullet that goes in and stays in is better than one that exits. This again goes in the face of "energy kills animals" but just in my experience over 30 years and seeing a ton of animals harvested I don't buy into the ft-lbs magic numbers. Two holes are always better than one! The further a bullet travels in an animals body, the more tissue damage, the more lethal it is. Period. Entry holes don't bleed like exit wounds. Exit wounds are difficult to plug up with fat, or hide or feed, but entry holes seal up pretty consistently in large animals. I have a 243 but consider it an experts rifle not a youth hunters caliber. I use a 257 Roberts and 6.5 (260 Rem) on my little blacktail deer and I can't tell you that one is a better killer than the other, but I have lost gut shot deer from those calibers where I recovered the same type of wound from a slow 308 Marlin Express or 32 Special. I feel bullet selection is far more important than energy. I'll take bullet placement, bullet selection and then momentum of a large heavy projectile as the top 3 killers to game animals. Again, this is just a hillbilly's opinion that has seen 100's of animals die, so this is purely from empirical data and doesn't follow scientific numbers. I would consider my opinon objective as I do hunt and own several smaller calibers regularly each year. Do I recommend my 260 Rem for elk hunting? No. For my kids, who are now 18 and 20 and have killed collectively over 20 mule deer and elk, I have my daughter shoot a 7mm-08 with a 150 grain Partition's and my son a 7mm magnum with 160 grain Accubonds. We've never lost an animal, but we don't shoot over 500 yards at big game animals. So the placement is typically good, the bullet type works well from zero to 500 yards and the majority are pass through's which equals maximum tissue damage and beating a dead horse I believe 2 holes let's the air out of a balloon faster than one. So I will agree, on marginal hits, bigger bullets can kill better than a smaller bullets. [/QUOTE]
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