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<blockquote data-quote="Shootin4fun" data-source="post: 1336108" data-attributes="member: 28741"><p>I feel like I just landed on Mars. 300 yards? 400? 600? OMG, my head is going to explode! If you are developing a load, first you must eliminate environmental variables, mainly wind, as much as possible. That means 100 yards, 200 max! Look at the ballistics tables as how wind, even a 5mph breeze affects a bullet over 300+ yards, and consider that you don't have any idea of what's going on out there past 100 yards with respect to breezes. I respect all of the long time members here, but I really thought they were pulling your leg at first, then I realized people were being serious. LMAO, if you are trying to load for a .223, you won't ANY meaningful data at 600 yards. </p><p></p><p>I shoot from between 300 to 600 yards almost every weekend, and with serious people who shoot in long range competitions, and when people are starting out to develop a load everyone I know starts at 100. One guy I know has a shooting camp in Co. where he teaches shooting out to 1 mile, and I've even him starting at 100 yards with a new gun or load. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I start with a chrono and do ladder at 100, paying attention to the OCW method to some degree. Then once I have some stats and a decent load I go to 200. But the fun begins at 300, so I normally shoot at 300 - 600. Every weekend. .3 MOA is about as good as I can do, adn I can't do that consistently especially in Texas winds, but I know there are others here and at my range who can leave me in the dust. </p><p></p><p>Now, if you are doing long range ballistics drop and windage tests, that's another thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shootin4fun, post: 1336108, member: 28741"] I feel like I just landed on Mars. 300 yards? 400? 600? OMG, my head is going to explode! If you are developing a load, first you must eliminate environmental variables, mainly wind, as much as possible. That means 100 yards, 200 max! Look at the ballistics tables as how wind, even a 5mph breeze affects a bullet over 300+ yards, and consider that you don't have any idea of what's going on out there past 100 yards with respect to breezes. I respect all of the long time members here, but I really thought they were pulling your leg at first, then I realized people were being serious. LMAO, if you are trying to load for a .223, you won't ANY meaningful data at 600 yards. I shoot from between 300 to 600 yards almost every weekend, and with serious people who shoot in long range competitions, and when people are starting out to develop a load everyone I know starts at 100. One guy I know has a shooting camp in Co. where he teaches shooting out to 1 mile, and I've even him starting at 100 yards with a new gun or load. Personally, I start with a chrono and do ladder at 100, paying attention to the OCW method to some degree. Then once I have some stats and a decent load I go to 200. But the fun begins at 300, so I normally shoot at 300 - 600. Every weekend. .3 MOA is about as good as I can do, adn I can't do that consistently especially in Texas winds, but I know there are others here and at my range who can leave me in the dust. Now, if you are doing long range ballistics drop and windage tests, that's another thing. [/QUOTE]
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