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<blockquote data-quote="CRaTxn" data-source="post: 664969" data-attributes="member: 14985"><p>Been thinking about Edge's heart attack loss of blood pressure comment...I believe we do on rare occasions but can't really name the causal factors that aren't in and of themselves "the causal factor of death"...maybe when we send a bullet an inch off their nose or step on them in their bed...I do know it makes a difference whether you hit a deer in the heart while his heart in on the compression stroke (in which case the hydrostatic or hydraulic shock will blow the valves open and sometimes rupture the heart muscle itself BUT you can also put a bullet thru the heart when it is not under pressure and they will go long distances before death) I shot a Cape Buffalo thru the lower heart and we chased him for 2 & 1/2 hrs till I could shoot him in the neck/spine. Also shoot a black bear from above in a 30' tree stand down thru the ribs and blew 1/2 of his heart muscle out his sternum (375 H&H 300gr Silvertip exit hole was four inches in diameter) but he must have just taken a breath and oxygenated his brain because he went over 250 yards.</p><p>So, I will buy the statement" </p><p>"</p><p>I didn't think so, it is from the brain being deprived of O2.</p><p>A broadhead, bullet, electrical shock or a thousand other reasons can cause the heart to not beat.</p><p></p><p>A bullet obliterating the heart muscle will cause some blood loss, but not the 15% or more of your total supply needed to kill you.</p><p>While you will bleed out over time, you will be unconscious almost instantly because the brain can't work without a fresh supply of oxygenated blood.</p><p></p><p>Now you can cut off your arm and you will most likely remain conscious for a significant amount of time...at least compared to the victim without a beating heart ie: blood pressure.</p><p></p><p>edge."</p><p>Yep, I after reconsidering all these valid arguments, there are lots of reasons for deer to not get O2 to the brain. I killed a deer caught in a fence with a blow to the brain with a tire iron...guess that turned the CNS signal off to the heart which in turn ...turned down the blood pressure...which cut off the O2 to the brain...gentlemen the more I think about this the more what jimd46902 said about "which happens first is a moot point" Good Summation jimd</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CRaTxn, post: 664969, member: 14985"] Been thinking about Edge's heart attack loss of blood pressure comment...I believe we do on rare occasions but can't really name the causal factors that aren't in and of themselves "the causal factor of death"...maybe when we send a bullet an inch off their nose or step on them in their bed...I do know it makes a difference whether you hit a deer in the heart while his heart in on the compression stroke (in which case the hydrostatic or hydraulic shock will blow the valves open and sometimes rupture the heart muscle itself BUT you can also put a bullet thru the heart when it is not under pressure and they will go long distances before death) I shot a Cape Buffalo thru the lower heart and we chased him for 2 & 1/2 hrs till I could shoot him in the neck/spine. Also shoot a black bear from above in a 30' tree stand down thru the ribs and blew 1/2 of his heart muscle out his sternum (375 H&H 300gr Silvertip exit hole was four inches in diameter) but he must have just taken a breath and oxygenated his brain because he went over 250 yards. So, I will buy the statement" " I didn't think so, it is from the brain being deprived of O2. A broadhead, bullet, electrical shock or a thousand other reasons can cause the heart to not beat. A bullet obliterating the heart muscle will cause some blood loss, but not the 15% or more of your total supply needed to kill you. While you will bleed out over time, you will be unconscious almost instantly because the brain can't work without a fresh supply of oxygenated blood. Now you can cut off your arm and you will most likely remain conscious for a significant amount of time...at least compared to the victim without a beating heart ie: blood pressure. edge." Yep, I after reconsidering all these valid arguments, there are lots of reasons for deer to not get O2 to the brain. I killed a deer caught in a fence with a blow to the brain with a tire iron...guess that turned the CNS signal off to the heart which in turn ...turned down the blood pressure...which cut off the O2 to the brain...gentlemen the more I think about this the more what jimd46902 said about "which happens first is a moot point" Good Summation jimd [/QUOTE]
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