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<blockquote data-quote="JakeC" data-source="post: 2983975" data-attributes="member: 115819"><p>I stated how I feel about cheerleading violent speech just because you don't like a guy. I gave realistic examples of things that have really happened which some people have used as a basis for discussing violence against a different guy. I promise you don't know how I feel about Trump because that's not the point of what I said, but it feels very different with a change in perspective doesn't it? I'm not sure what the 2A has to do with the former president, I know hundreds of gun users at every level of the game that do not associate the two. What did he do for us? The bump stock ban happened on his watch, but he tried to keep gun stores open during the shutdowns. He called for stricter background checks for the sake of having something to say after Parkland, but also purged the check system of hundreds of thousands of names, many of whom were unconstitutionally retained and wrongfully scrutinized. My point is that calling for extreme prejudice, violence, and extrajudicial execution all attacks the constitution as much as any gun grab and in this space makes the 2A/hunting community look bad. I'm not responsible for how you construe that any more than I am for you getting bristly towards a neighbor just because you sense something other than straight praise for the former president. He did a lot right. But he wasn't perfect. Neither were my point. You should be able to criticize a president whether you voted for them or not, they all have flaws we need to be honest about. </p><p></p><p>But using a pro 2A, pro hunting platform I'm proud of to support a guy calling for lynching an elderly idiot is a mistake that I want no part of. Does that make sense? No antagonism meant, you asked an honest question.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JakeC, post: 2983975, member: 115819"] I stated how I feel about cheerleading violent speech just because you don't like a guy. I gave realistic examples of things that have really happened which some people have used as a basis for discussing violence against a different guy. I promise you don't know how I feel about Trump because that's not the point of what I said, but it feels very different with a change in perspective doesn't it? I'm not sure what the 2A has to do with the former president, I know hundreds of gun users at every level of the game that do not associate the two. What did he do for us? The bump stock ban happened on his watch, but he tried to keep gun stores open during the shutdowns. He called for stricter background checks for the sake of having something to say after Parkland, but also purged the check system of hundreds of thousands of names, many of whom were unconstitutionally retained and wrongfully scrutinized. My point is that calling for extreme prejudice, violence, and extrajudicial execution all attacks the constitution as much as any gun grab and in this space makes the 2A/hunting community look bad. I'm not responsible for how you construe that any more than I am for you getting bristly towards a neighbor just because you sense something other than straight praise for the former president. He did a lot right. But he wasn't perfect. Neither were my point. You should be able to criticize a president whether you voted for them or not, they all have flaws we need to be honest about. But using a pro 2A, pro hunting platform I'm proud of to support a guy calling for lynching an elderly idiot is a mistake that I want no part of. Does that make sense? No antagonism meant, you asked an honest question. [/QUOTE]
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