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<blockquote data-quote="436" data-source="post: 472959" data-attributes="member: 16609"><p>Thought I might jump in here for a moment... The .17 Rem really is a pretty neat cartridge... I've had a few rifles and shot quite a few critters up to and including white tail deer with the .17 Rem while living in Idaho; although most my varmint hunting was in done Eastern Washington state. I've had my days with the caliber, I found that the factory 25gr load were very hard to beat back then. So with that in mind I set out to duplicate the factory load, this was back when you could buy the Remington 25gr HP bullet and not many others.</p><p> </p><p> As it turned out I did develop a load for my M700's which were dead nuts on the factory specifications. When I shot the factory ammo, then my loads, they were all in the same hole, so to speak.</p><p> The load: Remington brass</p><p> Remington 25gr HP</p><p> Remington 7 ½ BR primer</p><p> The powder was a little harder…. Looking at the factory powder reminded me of a powder I had seen or used before'.., the weight and powder would be the key. As I checked through many of my power I found {then one of the newer ones as was the .17 Remington} in the form of VihtaVuori N-135 </p><p> I weighed the power in the factory .17 Rem at about 22.8gr… looking at the powders in comparison they virtually looked identical. So that's where I started under by 20% of the 22.8gr factory load... Well to make a long story short… the factory load had a very consistent 4040 fps. When I reached .22.8grs in my M700 using N-135 it was also a very consistent 4040 fps. Without pressure what so ever'.., bingo! I had their load. And it shot like a dream from all my rifles. </p><p> </p><p> Next was the field, granted I'd had it out with other loads…. And was never really happy with it'…, until now!</p><p> Anything in the 300 yard mark was mine… 301 yards it seemed to be iffy I'm sure that's just me an the way I think about.. I did make some very long shot's with that load on Ground Hog; far beyond that 301 yard mark. But they all just seemed to lie down and die no real interaction with the bullet... But at 300 and under… stone dead and "smack" the hell out of them.</p><p> </p><p> The same with Coyotes, Badgers and Bob cat. The White tail at 250 yards neck or head shots were just anchored. I have a few friends with cattle ranches and they'd ask me in during caving time to weed out the Coyotes that kept bothering the heifers and keeping them from dropping.... not to mention any new born they could sink their teeth into. The rancher as I did liked the very low ricochet factor of the .17 Rem if I missed near the cattle or other live stock. A lot of farmers and ranchers bought the .17 Remington rifles.</p><p> </p><p> For Coyotes back then I used a Leupold M8 6X {great all round glass and still is} with duplex reticle, this helped me range the dog and keep him in that 300 yard mark. If he was stand and his feet to head was inside the heavy plex he was 300 yards. If he was standing and feet on bottom plex and head at the center if the cross hair he was 600… so if they weren't plex to plex I didn't take the shot.</p><p> </p><p> Well anyway… I've always liked the.17 Remington and still have a sweet spot for it. I still have tons for factory Remington 25gr bullets and brass left over and I know where there's a very nice lightly used .17 Remington M700 that might be for sale; who knows "beaver might shine again" some day.</p><p> Just thought I'd add my .02</p><p> 436</p><p> </p><p> Ps. Wolf? Yeah…. I'm betting it would kill one stone dead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="436, post: 472959, member: 16609"] Thought I might jump in here for a moment... The .17 Rem really is a pretty neat cartridge... I’ve had a few rifles and shot quite a few critters up to and including white tail deer with the .17 Rem while living in Idaho; although most my varmint hunting was in done Eastern Washington state. I’ve had my days with the caliber, I found that the factory 25gr load were very hard to beat back then. So with that in mind I set out to duplicate the factory load, this was back when you could buy the Remington 25gr HP bullet and not many others. As it turned out I did develop a load for my M700’s which were dead nuts on the factory specifications. When I shot the factory ammo, then my loads, they were all in the same hole, so to speak. The load: Remington brass Remington 25gr HP Remington 7 ½ BR primer The powder was a little harder…. Looking at the factory powder reminded me of a powder I had seen or used before’.., the weight and powder would be the key. As I checked through many of my power I found {then one of the newer ones as was the .17 Remington} in the form of VihtaVuori N-135 I weighed the power in the factory .17 Rem at about 22.8gr… looking at the powders in comparison they virtually looked identical. So that’s where I started under by 20% of the 22.8gr factory load... Well to make a long story short… the factory load had a very consistent 4040 fps. When I reached .22.8grs in my M700 using N-135 it was also a very consistent 4040 fps. Without pressure what so ever’.., bingo! I had their load. And it shot like a dream from all my rifles. Next was the field, granted I’d had it out with other loads…. And was never really happy with it’…, until now! Anything in the 300 yard mark was mine… 301 yards it seemed to be iffy I’m sure that’s just me an the way I think about.. I did make some very long shot’s with that load on Ground Hog; far beyond that 301 yard mark. But they all just seemed to lie down and die no real interaction with the bullet... But at 300 and under… stone dead and “smack” the hell out of them. The same with Coyotes, Badgers and Bob cat. The White tail at 250 yards neck or head shots were just anchored. I have a few friends with cattle ranches and they’d ask me in during caving time to weed out the Coyotes that kept bothering the heifers and keeping them from dropping.... not to mention any new born they could sink their teeth into. The rancher as I did liked the very low ricochet factor of the .17 Rem if I missed near the cattle or other live stock. A lot of farmers and ranchers bought the .17 Remington rifles. For Coyotes back then I used a Leupold M8 6X {great all round glass and still is} with duplex reticle, this helped me range the dog and keep him in that 300 yard mark. If he was stand and his feet to head was inside the heavy plex he was 300 yards. If he was standing and feet on bottom plex and head at the center if the cross hair he was 600… so if they weren’t plex to plex I didn’t take the shot. Well anyway… I’ve always liked the.17 Remington and still have a sweet spot for it. I still have tons for factory Remington 25gr bullets and brass left over and I know where there’s a very nice lightly used .17 Remington M700 that might be for sale; who knows “beaver might shine again” some day. Just thought I’d add my .02 436 Ps. Wolf? Yeah…. I’m betting it would kill one stone dead. [/QUOTE]
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