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Is Bullet Expansion Necessary for Effecive Killing of Game
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<blockquote data-quote="Shawn Carlock" data-source="post: 349152" data-attributes="member: 4"><p>I believe that first and formost that penetration is required. I think everyone will agree that it does not matter what the bullet does if it does not reach vital organs. Once reaching said vital organs rapid expansion even fragmentation works the best to drop blood pressure. In a prefect world the bullet will penetrate expand rapidly and exit falling to the ground beside the animal expending as much energy and dammage as possible inside the animal. Tha would be cool. However, I have seen hits to a deer shoulder at less than 100 yards where the bullet did not penetrate the chest cavity because of to much rapid expansion. This same shot 3 inches back would have had dramatic results. The penetration / expansion ratio if you will is not consistant through out the bullets range. If you have a good low speed expanding bullet for long range "in the crease shooting" then you may not have enough penetration to hit a shoulder and reach the vitals. (I know some are already saying "Well I don't shoot them in the shoulder. I on the other hand have seen a long range shots windage screwed up 10X more than the elevation. We are only talking about the bullet having to drift 3 or 4 inches in the wind the wrong way for this to happen.) When I look at range and bullet performance I look at worst case penetration issues. This would be an elks shoulder, I want to be able to penetrate this are to the heart and lungs or the other shoulder and the resulting fragmentation and bone chips spray penetratin the chest cavity. I tend to be a bone shooter but have had a number of just off the shoulder in the chest hits. These hits were successful and did not result in more than a 20-40 yards trailing effort. Expansion was minimal at these distances 1000-1400 yards but the vital organ destruction was more than enough. We are talking 10-20 seconds at most before hitting the dirt to stay. </p><p>Others have had bad experiences with all penetration and no expansion but I just haven't. Maybe in the smaller calibers this could be different as the frontal area is much different but in the 338 realm I just have not had issue with it. I am sure other have had experiences to the contrary but this is just my perspective.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shawn Carlock, post: 349152, member: 4"] I believe that first and formost that penetration is required. I think everyone will agree that it does not matter what the bullet does if it does not reach vital organs. Once reaching said vital organs rapid expansion even fragmentation works the best to drop blood pressure. In a prefect world the bullet will penetrate expand rapidly and exit falling to the ground beside the animal expending as much energy and dammage as possible inside the animal. Tha would be cool. However, I have seen hits to a deer shoulder at less than 100 yards where the bullet did not penetrate the chest cavity because of to much rapid expansion. This same shot 3 inches back would have had dramatic results. The penetration / expansion ratio if you will is not consistant through out the bullets range. If you have a good low speed expanding bullet for long range "in the crease shooting" then you may not have enough penetration to hit a shoulder and reach the vitals. (I know some are already saying "Well I don't shoot them in the shoulder. I on the other hand have seen a long range shots windage screwed up 10X more than the elevation. We are only talking about the bullet having to drift 3 or 4 inches in the wind the wrong way for this to happen.) When I look at range and bullet performance I look at worst case penetration issues. This would be an elks shoulder, I want to be able to penetrate this are to the heart and lungs or the other shoulder and the resulting fragmentation and bone chips spray penetratin the chest cavity. I tend to be a bone shooter but have had a number of just off the shoulder in the chest hits. These hits were successful and did not result in more than a 20-40 yards trailing effort. Expansion was minimal at these distances 1000-1400 yards but the vital organ destruction was more than enough. We are talking 10-20 seconds at most before hitting the dirt to stay. Others have had bad experiences with all penetration and no expansion but I just haven't. Maybe in the smaller calibers this could be different as the frontal area is much different but in the 338 realm I just have not had issue with it. I am sure other have had experiences to the contrary but this is just my perspective. [/QUOTE]
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