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Invasive Mtn Goats in GTNP need to be removed
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<blockquote data-quote="26Reload" data-source="post: 1522128" data-attributes="member: 99519"><p>What the big picture is..is screwed up..can you rightly say the bighorns are "native to those mountains"...the word native has been thrown around and shoved down throats a long time....</p><p>Was the original sheep herd EVER anywhere else....meaning...have they lived there since the beginning of time.....sounds absurd doesn't it....thats what native to the park means in this case......were those sheep chased up there due to hunting pressures....</p><p>I guided on the oregon coast for nearly 20 years....steelhead and salmon...</p><p>Do you think native steelhead exist over there.....take a guess...and i bet you say yes....early 1900s the government was involved in poisoning ALL the rivers over there to kill the steelhead off..they basicslly did...just so some commercial canning company could get a secondary fish put into the system..the coho salmon.....so they poisoned the steelhead and tried to develope the coho...didnt work...wrong spawning grounds for coho to sustain themselves.......</p><p>The government had to try to bring back the steelhead to fix their screwup....so they got steelhead from the big runs in idaho at the time...so basically all 20# steelhead on the coastal streams owe their gene pool to the idaho strain of steelhead....archive paperwork shows that a typical large steelhead from the oregon water only weighed 10#...</p><p>Native sheep.....no way....mans influence has changed all of the Native lands and animals.....</p><p>Those goats know nothing else as do the sheep that exist there....their biological lifespan does no longer go back to introduction dates...they are all gone...the remainder of the goats are Home....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="26Reload, post: 1522128, member: 99519"] What the big picture is..is screwed up..can you rightly say the bighorns are "native to those mountains"...the word native has been thrown around and shoved down throats a long time.... Was the original sheep herd EVER anywhere else....meaning...have they lived there since the beginning of time.....sounds absurd doesn't it....thats what native to the park means in this case......were those sheep chased up there due to hunting pressures.... I guided on the oregon coast for nearly 20 years....steelhead and salmon... Do you think native steelhead exist over there.....take a guess...and i bet you say yes....early 1900s the government was involved in poisoning ALL the rivers over there to kill the steelhead off..they basicslly did...just so some commercial canning company could get a secondary fish put into the system..the coho salmon.....so they poisoned the steelhead and tried to develope the coho...didnt work...wrong spawning grounds for coho to sustain themselves....... The government had to try to bring back the steelhead to fix their screwup....so they got steelhead from the big runs in idaho at the time...so basically all 20# steelhead on the coastal streams owe their gene pool to the idaho strain of steelhead....archive paperwork shows that a typical large steelhead from the oregon water only weighed 10#... Native sheep.....no way....mans influence has changed all of the Native lands and animals..... Those goats know nothing else as do the sheep that exist there....their biological lifespan does no longer go back to introduction dates...they are all gone...the remainder of the goats are Home.... [/QUOTE]
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