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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 479902" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>Howdy Adam, al ot of good advise IMO so far. I don't think you could go wrong with any of it. That being said, my first choice would be a Sub MOA Vanguard in a long action Mag. My first choice of cartridges would be 300 WSM, but unfortunately, I believe Vanguard (Howa) makes that in a short action. That being the case, I would recommend the 300 WM. Unfortunately again, the 300 WM will be too long to seat longer high BC bullets way out there and still fit in the mag box when you start reloading, and if you pursue LR, you will start reloading before long. But you should be able seat most bullets OK. After you burn your barrel up, which will probably be in about 1000 - 1500 rounds, I would recomend rebarreling to the 300 WSM to take advantage of the longer high BC bullets, or a wildcat like a 300-375 Ruger that I'm having built right now on a Sub MOA Vangurd.</p><p> </p><p>With RL17 my 300 WSM will out perform most 300 WM's, pushing a 180 bullet about 3190 fps. The 300-375 Ruger will get me a little more. If you decide you like one of the longer mags better, I would recommend a Sendero. I have two and they are both tack drivers. I just like the Howa action a little better, but it's about 1/2" shorter than the 700 action. That being said, the 700 is not long enough for the RUM cartridges seating long bullets without some mods to the mag box... and when unchambering an unfired round, you need to release the bolt to get the round out. Not a big deal, but.... If you want to end up with an Ultra or Lapua, you should really go to a Mark V or custom action IMO.</p><p> </p><p>The Sub MOA Vanguard has a sturdy aluminum bedded B&C stock and with the Howa action, make a great, inexpensive platform to build on in the future. And the Howa has a fairly good selection of after market parts available.</p><p> </p><p>After purchasing your rifle, your first investment should be a good single peice rail mount along with good tactical rings. I recommend the (relatively inexpensive) EGW heavy duty rail with maybe some Burris rings. then put your scope on. Next, get a good rangefinder (I recommend a Lieca 1600) because estimating diestances beyond 200 yds or so gets tricky and challanging and is critical past 300 yds with a 200 yd zero. With a little practice, it won't take you long to start making 500 yd shots. Next, start reloading and learn the finer points of it in this phase. Next, Get a real good LR scope, with accurate and relaible turrets, and now you are ready to step out past 500 yds.</p><p> </p><p>By now your rifle might need a new barrel... this is when you'll give the rifle to a good smith, and get it blue printed and mounted with a match grade barrel. when you get it back, life will be sweet <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> This is the phase I'm in... the waiting phase <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Hope that helps, </p><p> </p><p>-Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 479902, member: 11717"] Howdy Adam, al ot of good advise IMO so far. I don't think you could go wrong with any of it. That being said, my first choice would be a Sub MOA Vanguard in a long action Mag. My first choice of cartridges would be 300 WSM, but unfortunately, I believe Vanguard (Howa) makes that in a short action. That being the case, I would recommend the 300 WM. Unfortunately again, the 300 WM will be too long to seat longer high BC bullets way out there and still fit in the mag box when you start reloading, and if you pursue LR, you will start reloading before long. But you should be able seat most bullets OK. After you burn your barrel up, which will probably be in about 1000 - 1500 rounds, I would recomend rebarreling to the 300 WSM to take advantage of the longer high BC bullets, or a wildcat like a 300-375 Ruger that I'm having built right now on a Sub MOA Vangurd. With RL17 my 300 WSM will out perform most 300 WM's, pushing a 180 bullet about 3190 fps. The 300-375 Ruger will get me a little more. If you decide you like one of the longer mags better, I would recommend a Sendero. I have two and they are both tack drivers. I just like the Howa action a little better, but it's about 1/2" shorter than the 700 action. That being said, the 700 is not long enough for the RUM cartridges seating long bullets without some mods to the mag box... and when unchambering an unfired round, you need to release the bolt to get the round out. Not a big deal, but.... If you want to end up with an Ultra or Lapua, you should really go to a Mark V or custom action IMO. The Sub MOA Vanguard has a sturdy aluminum bedded B&C stock and with the Howa action, make a great, inexpensive platform to build on in the future. And the Howa has a fairly good selection of after market parts available. After purchasing your rifle, your first investment should be a good single peice rail mount along with good tactical rings. I recommend the (relatively inexpensive) EGW heavy duty rail with maybe some Burris rings. then put your scope on. Next, get a good rangefinder (I recommend a Lieca 1600) because estimating diestances beyond 200 yds or so gets tricky and challanging and is critical past 300 yds with a 200 yd zero. With a little practice, it won't take you long to start making 500 yd shots. Next, start reloading and learn the finer points of it in this phase. Next, Get a real good LR scope, with accurate and relaible turrets, and now you are ready to step out past 500 yds. By now your rifle might need a new barrel... this is when you'll give the rifle to a good smith, and get it blue printed and mounted with a match grade barrel. when you get it back, life will be sweet :) This is the phase I'm in... the waiting phase :) Hope that helps, -Mark [/QUOTE]
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