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Importance of T.O.F.???
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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 474942" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>I just want to reinforce what Jon A has stated here. He is absolutely correct.</p><p></p><p>My take on why we dont pay much attention to TOF here and why manufacturers dont use it as a marketing ploy is because TOF does not tell you much in regards to retained energy, wind drift, or trajectory even though a very short TOF and flat trajectory go hand in hand it wont give you a clue as to what the remaining energy or windage or lack thereof will be. Short TOF does not mean high retained energy or small amounts of drift.</p><p></p><p>When a manufacturer tells you the BC is .550, you can guage how the windage values and retained energy are going to compare against a load that sports a .500 or .600 BC regardless of TOF. The bottom line is the numbers that ARE important to longrange hunters are retained energy, retained velocity for expansion and minimal wind drift for forgivness. TOF does nothing to tell us these numbers.</p><p></p><p>Also, TOF in and of itself does not give you even a close idea of how bad the drift will be. The 'lag' time WITHIN the TOF will determine how much or little a bullet will drift. That is why Lazzeronies 308 warbird using 168's at 3600 FPS have more drift and less energy than my 308 running 208 AMAX's at 1000 yards. The 168 at 3600FPS TOF is roughly 1.2300 and mine is 1.5558 seconds. The 168 is clearly much more impressive on the surface but in reality it means very little, in fact the important numbers are just not as good despite looking better.</p><p> Clear as mud right??</p><p></p><p>M</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 474942, member: 1007"] I just want to reinforce what Jon A has stated here. He is absolutely correct. My take on why we dont pay much attention to TOF here and why manufacturers dont use it as a marketing ploy is because TOF does not tell you much in regards to retained energy, wind drift, or trajectory even though a very short TOF and flat trajectory go hand in hand it wont give you a clue as to what the remaining energy or windage or lack thereof will be. Short TOF does not mean high retained energy or small amounts of drift. When a manufacturer tells you the BC is .550, you can guage how the windage values and retained energy are going to compare against a load that sports a .500 or .600 BC regardless of TOF. The bottom line is the numbers that ARE important to longrange hunters are retained energy, retained velocity for expansion and minimal wind drift for forgivness. TOF does nothing to tell us these numbers. Also, TOF in and of itself does not give you even a close idea of how bad the drift will be. The 'lag' time WITHIN the TOF will determine how much or little a bullet will drift. That is why Lazzeronies 308 warbird using 168's at 3600 FPS have more drift and less energy than my 308 running 208 AMAX's at 1000 yards. The 168 at 3600FPS TOF is roughly 1.2300 and mine is 1.5558 seconds. The 168 is clearly much more impressive on the surface but in reality it means very little, in fact the important numbers are just not as good despite looking better. Clear as mud right?? M [/QUOTE]
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