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<blockquote data-quote="BountyHunter" data-source="post: 182468" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>Not at all, It is just that the argument that method ties into the management plan is bogus. If someone considers hunting with an inline sporting and you do not, what makes you right? Your perception? Sporting opportunities is not part of the management plan for numbers harvested though. It is part of the plan for encouraging more hunters, which is needed for the game depts to survive. </p><p> </p><p>Less and less hunters each year and yet selfish or ego driven hunters want to restrict ways for other hunters to hunt. Where is the long term logic in that? </p><p> </p><p>No hunters equals no game depts!! Even they recognize that, but they have to fight the traditionalists and "I don't want anyone else to shoot my deer/elk crowd, so lets make it as difficult as possible for the other guy." As a hunter ed instructor who works with the Game Dept, I see that arguement all the time and watch them have to fight crazy rules that come up.</p><p> </p><p>Like I said I have used round ball, inlines, fowlers with patch ball, compound, recurve, longbow and self bows with flint arrows, revolvers, contenders and XP-100s. All were sporting to me and the circumstances. However I do not demand that everyone else adopt my methods in order to hunt. That is the key difference here.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Why is that? Do you suppose that those archers might be the better hunters to begin with and are now progressing thru the hunting phases (got to kill something, got to limit out, method, trophy and sporting). I bow hunt hard for two weeks every year for trophy MO whitetails and yet I enjoy the hunt and IF I get a good buck OK, if not I go home enjoying the hunt with a couple friends and family. I still kill a couple does for meat and to manage the herd on our properties. This year I watched a 160+ class 9 point on three different evenings at 80-120 yards, not quite bow range. Dead meat with a rifle or pistol, but I still enjoyed the hunt and working ways to get closer to him. Next year look out.</p><p> </p><p>It is all about giving as many hunters as possible a sporting opportunity to hunt, not just the limited exalted tradionalists. I watched this argument go crazy thru the archery community years ago. </p><p> </p><p>I shot traditional for a long time for long bow and recurves, however we were called modern equipment if we shot aluminum or carbon arrows or screw in points. the "real" traditional guys argued that you had to use self arrows with bone or flint tips to be traditional. To them, modern arrows and bows should hunt in the gun season. </p><p> </p><p>Where does the silliness end with rules that have zero to do with the total numbers harvested but only limit the opportunities to hunters?</p><p> </p><p>BH</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BountyHunter, post: 182468, member: 12"] Not at all, It is just that the argument that method ties into the management plan is bogus. If someone considers hunting with an inline sporting and you do not, what makes you right? Your perception? Sporting opportunities is not part of the management plan for numbers harvested though. It is part of the plan for encouraging more hunters, which is needed for the game depts to survive. Less and less hunters each year and yet selfish or ego driven hunters want to restrict ways for other hunters to hunt. Where is the long term logic in that? No hunters equals no game depts!! Even they recognize that, but they have to fight the traditionalists and "I don't want anyone else to shoot my deer/elk crowd, so lets make it as difficult as possible for the other guy." As a hunter ed instructor who works with the Game Dept, I see that arguement all the time and watch them have to fight crazy rules that come up. Like I said I have used round ball, inlines, fowlers with patch ball, compound, recurve, longbow and self bows with flint arrows, revolvers, contenders and XP-100s. All were sporting to me and the circumstances. However I do not demand that everyone else adopt my methods in order to hunt. That is the key difference here. Why is that? Do you suppose that those archers might be the better hunters to begin with and are now progressing thru the hunting phases (got to kill something, got to limit out, method, trophy and sporting). I bow hunt hard for two weeks every year for trophy MO whitetails and yet I enjoy the hunt and IF I get a good buck OK, if not I go home enjoying the hunt with a couple friends and family. I still kill a couple does for meat and to manage the herd on our properties. This year I watched a 160+ class 9 point on three different evenings at 80-120 yards, not quite bow range. Dead meat with a rifle or pistol, but I still enjoyed the hunt and working ways to get closer to him. Next year look out. It is all about giving as many hunters as possible a sporting opportunity to hunt, not just the limited exalted tradionalists. I watched this argument go crazy thru the archery community years ago. I shot traditional for a long time for long bow and recurves, however we were called modern equipment if we shot aluminum or carbon arrows or screw in points. the "real" traditional guys argued that you had to use self arrows with bone or flint tips to be traditional. To them, modern arrows and bows should hunt in the gun season. Where does the silliness end with rules that have zero to do with the total numbers harvested but only limit the opportunities to hunters? BH [/QUOTE]
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