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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 957065" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>I would imagine the .338 would make a substantial mess, then again, so will anything if the shot hits the wrong place.</p><p> </p><p>There's people who drop moose inside of 500 yards with .25-06's with 1 shot. Shot placement is EVERYTHING. Brute power is important with large game, but it is not all there is to a successful hunt. Ask the member on here (can't ever remember his name) who dropped a monster moose with 1 shot @ 9xx yards with a plain ole' 7mm RemMag.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>As for my .338 failure...</p><p> </p><p>One box was handloads using 210gr Swift Scirocco's, and the other was a box of Barnes Vortex 210 TTSX's. It didn't like either of those, so I snatched the barrel and sold it to someone else. Then I turned that rifle into a 7mm RM for deer season this past year. Which is now a heavy barreled .300 Ackley Mag in a HS Precision Sendero stock.</p><p> </p><p>If you want a 1500 yard monster shoot a .300 Ackley Mag with a Berger 210 VLD, or even a 215 Hybrid.</p><p> </p><p>It's basically an improved, fattened, 40* shouldered .300 Weatherby. It hits hard.</p><p> </p><p>Also, my gunsmith has been smithing for 25+ years (machining for much longer than that), and he builds benchrest rifles that will put 5 in the SAME hole @ 200 yards. I've seen his trophies and his targets. I've also seen how he makes my rifles shoot with a worked factory barrel on them. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>He won't own a .338 Lapua. He built simself and a couple clients one, using custom actions, Krieger barrls, and McMillan stocks. All 3 of them couldn't get any of the rifles to group better than 5/8" @ 100 yards. He said average was barely under 1" groups on a no-wind day with perfect conditions using Lapua brass, Lapua bullets, and whatever model Vihtavuori powder.</p><p> </p><p>He'll build you one...But he won't guarantee accuracy.</p><p> </p><p>That's not why I don't like them, I disliked them long before I used the gunsmith. But seeing how he can make my factory barreled guns shoot 1/8 and 1/4 MOA groups @ 100 yards, I take his word for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 957065, member: 12995"] I would imagine the .338 would make a substantial mess, then again, so will anything if the shot hits the wrong place. There's people who drop moose inside of 500 yards with .25-06's with 1 shot. Shot placement is EVERYTHING. Brute power is important with large game, but it is not all there is to a successful hunt. Ask the member on here (can't ever remember his name) who dropped a monster moose with 1 shot @ 9xx yards with a plain ole' 7mm RemMag. As for my .338 failure... One box was handloads using 210gr Swift Scirocco's, and the other was a box of Barnes Vortex 210 TTSX's. It didn't like either of those, so I snatched the barrel and sold it to someone else. Then I turned that rifle into a 7mm RM for deer season this past year. Which is now a heavy barreled .300 Ackley Mag in a HS Precision Sendero stock. If you want a 1500 yard monster shoot a .300 Ackley Mag with a Berger 210 VLD, or even a 215 Hybrid. It's basically an improved, fattened, 40* shouldered .300 Weatherby. It hits hard. Also, my gunsmith has been smithing for 25+ years (machining for much longer than that), and he builds benchrest rifles that will put 5 in the SAME hole @ 200 yards. I've seen his trophies and his targets. I've also seen how he makes my rifles shoot with a worked factory barrel on them. :D He won't own a .338 Lapua. He built simself and a couple clients one, using custom actions, Krieger barrls, and McMillan stocks. All 3 of them couldn't get any of the rifles to group better than 5/8" @ 100 yards. He said average was barely under 1" groups on a no-wind day with perfect conditions using Lapua brass, Lapua bullets, and whatever model Vihtavuori powder. He'll build you one...But he won't guarantee accuracy. That's not why I don't like them, I disliked them long before I used the gunsmith. But seeing how he can make my factory barreled guns shoot 1/8 and 1/4 MOA groups @ 100 yards, I take his word for it. [/QUOTE]
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