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The Basics, Starting Out
Hunting rifle to hand down to my grandson
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<blockquote data-quote="VinceMule" data-source="post: 2905173" data-attributes="member: 122164"><p>The grandchild will want to start shooting early in life. I would consider a cartridge that has little recoil, not a magnum. The best way to ruin a kid is to give him something that kicks hard, and an ultra light magnum would be my last choice. A 243 Winchester comes to mind with a good Gentry muzzle break where the concussion does not deafen him on a 24" barrel.</p><p></p><p>Men build guns that they like for themselves, thinking little of what a young child's needs may be, regarding trigger pull, length of pull, the weight of the rifle that the child can handle, and recoil.</p><p></p><p>My nephews got Thompson contender Carbines, plastic stocks cut to fit, and Walnut stocks saved. The caliber in the TC carbine is 30/30 shot with Reduced loads of ammo from Remington. The little 5- 6-year-olds sat in my lap and killed deer with that rig. The TC has little weight so they feel comfortable in handling/pointing. The recoil for the smallest child is almost nil. Those kids are full grown now, and still use those TCs in woods hunting, close range.</p><p></p><p>Now considering that you want to give the guns to the children when they are 17-20 years old, consider that the economy is in one world of hurt, and getting worse, not better. Whatever caliber I chose, I would have 300-500 pieces of brass for each barrel. If the economy goes Kaput, they will have a fighting chance of using the gun. Remember, it takes little to ruin these small brass companies, even though they make world-class brass. </p><p></p><p>Too bad you are not a 6.5 guy, the 6.5x47 Lapua checks a lot of boxes with very long barrel life...uncanny accuracy as benchrest shooters have proven.</p><p></p><p>At 10 years old, they should have a collection of BB guns, then pellet guns, then 22 single shots. At 13, I had my nephews on the skeet Field with Rem 1100 Special Field 20ga, they learned hand and eye coordination. They started reloading when they were 10-12, can not remember. Single-stage Mec shotshell reloaders, and I had them help me process brass for their rifles, and they did seat the bullets after I had done the powder charging. I had them shooting carpenter bees with rat shot with their GREAT great grandpa's 22 as soon as they could handle the gun fit. We taught the kids to throw up a golf ball and shoot it with a bb gun, then graduated to pennies, a trick the Great Grandpa taught all his kids, which was passed down.</p><p></p><p>Kids love shooting reactive targets, and I used the MINI clay pigeons that are 1 3/4" in dia for the TC in 30/30 carbines. You need to get those young kids into the reloading room ASAP, they love every aspect of the loading. If they show no interest in reloading, guns, then you know to put the money in a CD or other form of investment as the rifle will have little to no interest for them, and we have all seen this many times. Also, teach them to swap barrels on the action at an early age, nix the carbon wrap, and go 416 SS with multiple barrels.</p><p></p><p>Best Wishes</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VinceMule, post: 2905173, member: 122164"] The grandchild will want to start shooting early in life. I would consider a cartridge that has little recoil, not a magnum. The best way to ruin a kid is to give him something that kicks hard, and an ultra light magnum would be my last choice. A 243 Winchester comes to mind with a good Gentry muzzle break where the concussion does not deafen him on a 24" barrel. Men build guns that they like for themselves, thinking little of what a young child's needs may be, regarding trigger pull, length of pull, the weight of the rifle that the child can handle, and recoil. My nephews got Thompson contender Carbines, plastic stocks cut to fit, and Walnut stocks saved. The caliber in the TC carbine is 30/30 shot with Reduced loads of ammo from Remington. The little 5- 6-year-olds sat in my lap and killed deer with that rig. The TC has little weight so they feel comfortable in handling/pointing. The recoil for the smallest child is almost nil. Those kids are full grown now, and still use those TCs in woods hunting, close range. Now considering that you want to give the guns to the children when they are 17-20 years old, consider that the economy is in one world of hurt, and getting worse, not better. Whatever caliber I chose, I would have 300-500 pieces of brass for each barrel. If the economy goes Kaput, they will have a fighting chance of using the gun. Remember, it takes little to ruin these small brass companies, even though they make world-class brass. Too bad you are not a 6.5 guy, the 6.5x47 Lapua checks a lot of boxes with very long barrel life...uncanny accuracy as benchrest shooters have proven. At 10 years old, they should have a collection of BB guns, then pellet guns, then 22 single shots. At 13, I had my nephews on the skeet Field with Rem 1100 Special Field 20ga, they learned hand and eye coordination. They started reloading when they were 10-12, can not remember. Single-stage Mec shotshell reloaders, and I had them help me process brass for their rifles, and they did seat the bullets after I had done the powder charging. I had them shooting carpenter bees with rat shot with their GREAT great grandpa's 22 as soon as they could handle the gun fit. We taught the kids to throw up a golf ball and shoot it with a bb gun, then graduated to pennies, a trick the Great Grandpa taught all his kids, which was passed down. Kids love shooting reactive targets, and I used the MINI clay pigeons that are 1 3/4" in dia for the TC in 30/30 carbines. You need to get those young kids into the reloading room ASAP, they love every aspect of the loading. If they show no interest in reloading, guns, then you know to put the money in a CD or other form of investment as the rifle will have little to no interest for them, and we have all seen this many times. Also, teach them to swap barrels on the action at an early age, nix the carbon wrap, and go 416 SS with multiple barrels. Best Wishes [/QUOTE]
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