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<blockquote data-quote="Greyfox" data-source="post: 1496127" data-attributes="member: 10291"><p>While I fully agree with many of the points made in these posts, I'm open to shooting game at 1000+ yards....and have done so with success. I can vividly remember a time when a 500 yard shot at game was viewed with equal skepticism. Time, information, and technology has changed this. Whether 500 yards or 1200 yards, uncertain conditions can result in the forfeiting of the shot, and this will always be the responsibility of the hunter.. Again, citing Litz, most all of the conditions can be accurately determined at long range with two exceptions. 1) What is the wind actually doing between you and the target: and 2) the certainty of the ballistic performance of the actual cartridge being fired. He labels these, "indeterminants". All the other factors(distance, ballistic calculation/inputs, angle, shooting skills, etc) enable the ability to be understood and measured....these are labeled "determinants". Either determinants or indeterminants can impose a limit on range, but the determinates can be mastered if one has the tools, knowledge, and desire to do so. Understanding them at the time of the shot determines whether you should take the shot at all. IMO, key is to get the best handle possible on the indeterminates. Eight years with the same rifle/load and lots of LR practice have improved my statistical certainty of the ballistic performance of my load(<.5MOA/ES<12FPS), as well as dealing with wind. Mastering the wind will be a lifetime endeavor, and has been responsible for more "passed" long range shots for me then any other factor, but practice does make a difference. I must admit, even with a hunting rifle/equipment/skills that is "capable" to 1000 yards, game taken past 1000 have been few and far between with the bulk of my LR game taken between 500 and 800 yards. This "window" seems to be the LR hunting sweet spot when closing the distance in open terrain. But, 1000+ yard shots are very possible under the "right circumstances".IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greyfox, post: 1496127, member: 10291"] While I fully agree with many of the points made in these posts, I’m open to shooting game at 1000+ yards....and have done so with success. I can vividly remember a time when a 500 yard shot at game was viewed with equal skepticism. Time, information, and technology has changed this. Whether 500 yards or 1200 yards, uncertain conditions can result in the forfeiting of the shot, and this will always be the responsibility of the hunter.. Again, citing Litz, most all of the conditions can be accurately determined at long range with two exceptions. 1) What is the wind actually doing between you and the target: and 2) the certainty of the ballistic performance of the actual cartridge being fired. He labels these, “indeterminants”. All the other factors(distance, ballistic calculation/inputs, angle, shooting skills, etc) enable the ability to be understood and measured....these are labeled “determinants”. Either determinants or indeterminants can impose a limit on range, but the determinates can be mastered if one has the tools, knowledge, and desire to do so. Understanding them at the time of the shot determines whether you should take the shot at all. IMO, key is to get the best handle possible on the indeterminates. Eight years with the same rifle/load and lots of LR practice have improved my statistical certainty of the ballistic performance of my load(<.5MOA/ES<12FPS), as well as dealing with wind. Mastering the wind will be a lifetime endeavor, and has been responsible for more “passed” long range shots for me then any other factor, but practice does make a difference. I must admit, even with a hunting rifle/equipment/skills that is “capable” to 1000 yards, game taken past 1000 have been few and far between with the bulk of my LR game taken between 500 and 800 yards. This “window” seems to be the LR hunting sweet spot when closing the distance in open terrain. But, 1000+ yard shots are very possible under the “right circumstances”.IMO. [/QUOTE]
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