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<blockquote data-quote="Azrael" data-source="post: 1495164" data-attributes="member: 106296"><p>OK, shoot three shot groups. I'm fine with threes when I don't want to torch a good magnum rifle barrel. I can also make an argument for cold-bores and nothing else. This might also be a good place to point out that I don't believe that hunting rifles have to shoot under 1/2 MOA. Also, theres that little problem that if we can't agree on what a 1/2 MOA (or whatever) rifle is, its pretty hard to agree on whether its good enough. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> Shoot three, cool off your barrel then shoot 2 or three more at the same target. That will give a better idea of how your rifle shoots. Or 5 cold bores on 5 days if you dare. Or accept that your worst 3 shot groups are a better indicator of the accuracy of the combo than the best three shot groups. Five shot groups tend to be 50% or a bit more bigger than 3 shot groups, and as often as not it has little to do with the barrel heating up. Divide 5 by 3; its not all barrel heat its numbers that are too small. 10 shot groups don't grow to the same extent over 5s indicating that 5 is starting to be enough to predict what the rest are going to do.</p><p></p><p> As for how many times I'll shoot more than 3 shots in the field, you're asking the wrong guy. In my culling and eradication endevours I'll often rattle off 20-30 rounds faster than you can say "Does anyone else smell fiberglass?" <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Azrael, post: 1495164, member: 106296"] OK, shoot three shot groups. I'm fine with threes when I don't want to torch a good magnum rifle barrel. I can also make an argument for cold-bores and nothing else. This might also be a good place to point out that I don't believe that hunting rifles have to shoot under 1/2 MOA. Also, theres that little problem that if we can't agree on what a 1/2 MOA (or whatever) rifle is, its pretty hard to agree on whether its good enough. :) Shoot three, cool off your barrel then shoot 2 or three more at the same target. That will give a better idea of how your rifle shoots. Or 5 cold bores on 5 days if you dare. Or accept that your worst 3 shot groups are a better indicator of the accuracy of the combo than the best three shot groups. Five shot groups tend to be 50% or a bit more bigger than 3 shot groups, and as often as not it has little to do with the barrel heating up. Divide 5 by 3; its not all barrel heat its numbers that are too small. 10 shot groups don't grow to the same extent over 5s indicating that 5 is starting to be enough to predict what the rest are going to do. As for how many times I'll shoot more than 3 shots in the field, you're asking the wrong guy. In my culling and eradication endevours I'll often rattle off 20-30 rounds faster than you can say "Does anyone else smell fiberglass?" ;) [/QUOTE]
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