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<blockquote data-quote="Mikecr" data-source="post: 1103147" data-attributes="member: 1521"><p>I disagree with MudRunner. For one, precision and accuracy are different, separate,, nothing in common.</p><p>I also disagree with suggestions of averaging results for 'statistical probabilities'. </p><p>None of this funny math will help in single shot kills, and is inappropriate to rely on for LR hunting shots.</p><p></p><p>I see common understandings as analogous to the bullet sorting folks are tail chasing with. Where they don't understand what measurements mean, they're as likely tossing the best bullets & keeping the worst! It's the same with barrels, brass, and shooting results. </p><p>Add to this, the placebo in spending more or adding efforts(regardless of function) -for intent, rather than actual results. It's very hard for many to see that $2pc brass, and a $250 trigger didn't actually help a NightForce scope issue. How much money will they spend and never nail that weakness while averaging of shooting results(ala 20sht hot grouping)?</p><p>I don't average, would never have found it if I did. But I still ****ed time & money concluding that scope issue(which NF fixed for free in 2-day turnaround)...</p><p></p><p>It's a good idea to develop with distant ladder, and finer hot group tweaking to begin. But moving on to cold bore ACCURACY testing, you're as likely to see things open to nearly 1MOA. And if a varmint hunter, you need to know this sucks completely. It's gonna take a lot of work, load tweaking, and problem solving in seemingly extreme slow motion, to get 1/2MOA to the goal distance. It's not more shooting, it's less shooting-more thinking. Brutal objective thinking.</p><p></p><p>A drill I run with any hunting gun(I keep): 1" dot at 200yds, pull gun from the safe, install Harris bipod, drive to the range, set gun in dirt & put one cold shot in that dot. 2hrs later, put another in the dot. Do it again at 1hr, 30min, 10min. That's a 5sht group, could be an ugly ~.9 IPHY group, but all that matters is you hit that dot -every shot. That's 1/2 IPHY of accuracy at 200yds.</p><p>If you can't pull it off, and most would find they can't to begin, figure out why. Don't waste energy further out,, don't play around walking shots into metal a mile away.. Figure out why your accuracy is broken.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mikecr, post: 1103147, member: 1521"] I disagree with MudRunner. For one, precision and accuracy are different, separate,, nothing in common. I also disagree with suggestions of averaging results for 'statistical probabilities'. None of this funny math will help in single shot kills, and is inappropriate to rely on for LR hunting shots. I see common understandings as analogous to the bullet sorting folks are tail chasing with. Where they don't understand what measurements mean, they're as likely tossing the best bullets & keeping the worst! It's the same with barrels, brass, and shooting results. Add to this, the placebo in spending more or adding efforts(regardless of function) -for intent, rather than actual results. It's very hard for many to see that $2pc brass, and a $250 trigger didn't actually help a NightForce scope issue. How much money will they spend and never nail that weakness while averaging of shooting results(ala 20sht hot grouping)? I don't average, would never have found it if I did. But I still ****ed time & money concluding that scope issue(which NF fixed for free in 2-day turnaround)... It's a good idea to develop with distant ladder, and finer hot group tweaking to begin. But moving on to cold bore ACCURACY testing, you're as likely to see things open to nearly 1MOA. And if a varmint hunter, you need to know this sucks completely. It's gonna take a lot of work, load tweaking, and problem solving in seemingly extreme slow motion, to get 1/2MOA to the goal distance. It's not more shooting, it's less shooting-more thinking. Brutal objective thinking. A drill I run with any hunting gun(I keep): 1" dot at 200yds, pull gun from the safe, install Harris bipod, drive to the range, set gun in dirt & put one cold shot in that dot. 2hrs later, put another in the dot. Do it again at 1hr, 30min, 10min. That's a 5sht group, could be an ugly ~.9 IPHY group, but all that matters is you hit that dot -every shot. That's 1/2 IPHY of accuracy at 200yds. If you can't pull it off, and most would find they can't to begin, figure out why. Don't waste energy further out,, don't play around walking shots into metal a mile away.. Figure out why your accuracy is broken. [/QUOTE]
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