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<blockquote data-quote="diriel" data-source="post: 632013" data-attributes="member: 26983"><p>It has been a few years since a friend and I both bought B&C so my info may well be dated, but I have owned 1 B&C and I currently own a McMillan... Flat out Fact is that there is ZERO comparison between the two!!!! McMillan absolutely kicks the B&C's *** Hands Down! Not my opinion, pure fact! You want "**** Good the First Time" get McMillan, or Manners etc... You want the chance of an "Excuse" buy B&C ... Perhaps these days B&C's best is really good, but for not a whole lot more money I will take straight up no B.S. peace of mind and go with **** GOOD! </p><p></p><p>If I want a Potential Excuse, AND a project I will order a stock from Richards Microfit, who makes several nice stocks in wood that are about 95% or so pre-fits that For Sure need final fitting but once done they are nice and they are nice Wood! I have a couple of their stocks, and it took me a good while to fit and finish them, but they work real nice. </p><p></p><p>Sorry to bag on B&C, and I am Sure I will be taken to task but I refuse to ******** anyone about my experience with B&C. Plastic / Fibre / Carbon etc are souless, cold tools that can do a fantastic job IF made properly. Do I love them? NO. But my McMillan A5 has been fantastic from day 1 and I Have never felt that it was holding me back in anyway shape or form. However, there are many days I feel more like nice warm wood that has both soul and character, and is "warm" to the touch. If I feel I need Solid as A Rock, and without Soul or Character, then I absolutely grab my McMillan A5 @ 5lbs fill. Period. Me and that McMillan have been places and done many cool things, it is a tool that absolutely Always Works No Matter What, When, Where, or Why. No excuses, ever, it just gets it done day in and day out. I am not a fanboi, I am an end user who is old enough that excuses are B.S., either go for it or stay home. Why waste good energy on bad gear? Seriously?</p><p></p><p>All that being said, I have been staring awful hard at the Manners MCS-TA and T. The TA is adjustable cheek piece, the T is fixed. I would likely prefer the T personally, but have went back and forth on the TA <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> They make some NICE stocks! But, you will pay, and you will wait... </p><p></p><p>Choices and Decisions...</p><p>Gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diriel, post: 632013, member: 26983"] It has been a few years since a friend and I both bought B&C so my info may well be dated, but I have owned 1 B&C and I currently own a McMillan... Flat out Fact is that there is ZERO comparison between the two!!!! McMillan absolutely kicks the B&C's *** Hands Down! Not my opinion, pure fact! You want "**** Good the First Time" get McMillan, or Manners etc... You want the chance of an "Excuse" buy B&C ... Perhaps these days B&C's best is really good, but for not a whole lot more money I will take straight up no B.S. peace of mind and go with **** GOOD! If I want a Potential Excuse, AND a project I will order a stock from Richards Microfit, who makes several nice stocks in wood that are about 95% or so pre-fits that For Sure need final fitting but once done they are nice and they are nice Wood! I have a couple of their stocks, and it took me a good while to fit and finish them, but they work real nice. Sorry to bag on B&C, and I am Sure I will be taken to task but I refuse to ******** anyone about my experience with B&C. Plastic / Fibre / Carbon etc are souless, cold tools that can do a fantastic job IF made properly. Do I love them? NO. But my McMillan A5 has been fantastic from day 1 and I Have never felt that it was holding me back in anyway shape or form. However, there are many days I feel more like nice warm wood that has both soul and character, and is "warm" to the touch. If I feel I need Solid as A Rock, and without Soul or Character, then I absolutely grab my McMillan A5 @ 5lbs fill. Period. Me and that McMillan have been places and done many cool things, it is a tool that absolutely Always Works No Matter What, When, Where, or Why. No excuses, ever, it just gets it done day in and day out. I am not a fanboi, I am an end user who is old enough that excuses are B.S., either go for it or stay home. Why waste good energy on bad gear? Seriously? All that being said, I have been staring awful hard at the Manners MCS-TA and T. The TA is adjustable cheek piece, the T is fixed. I would likely prefer the T personally, but have went back and forth on the TA :) They make some NICE stocks! But, you will pay, and you will wait... Choices and Decisions... Gary [/QUOTE]
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