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How many elk have you been a part of killing?
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<blockquote data-quote="Brad Quarnberg" data-source="post: 1534628" data-attributes="member: 107866"><p>I've shot 5 bull and 4 cow elk and been involved in tracking, packing etc. in another dozen or so (also taken 8 Alaska Yukon Moose including a 64inch monster, and been involved in another dozen or so kills: they are also a tough animal)</p><p>I have shot a couple of real nice bull elk, and taken a couple with a 270WSM. It is very accurate and deadly with my hand loads with 140gr accubond bullets, but I've kept my shots around 200 yards.</p><p>My go to for elk is my 300WSM (although before the WSM's came out it was a 300 Win Mag) or my 325WSM depending on terrain etc. (also my go to Moose gun after they came out).</p><p>I now live in Germany and a few months ago got my German Hunting license.</p><p>The minimum caliber for all big game (Roe deer are not considered big game) is 6.5mm. However, within the last couple of months some areas have changed that minimum caliber to 7mm because of wounded animals. All hunting areas in Germany are owned by a lease holder or the state and require a tracking (rigorous certification process to be licensed and I'm talking about the dog) dog be available in case of wounded animals. It cuts down on the number of lost animals but it still happens and the hunter who shot it has to pay for the game animal that was lost which can be very pricey). Because of that, hunters are generally much more careful about the shot placement, distance etc. before pulling the trigger. </p><p>I have seen animals soak up the lead and keep going but after tracking them down found most of the billets to have failed (jacket separation etc.) and/or the placement not good for a quick kill. </p><p>I've hunted with hunters that routinely make 700-800 yards shots on paper at the range all day long: taking their time, dipping the wind, on a bipod or sandbags, but those aren't usual real world scenarios and when you add the adrenaline from a big animal and the heavy breathing from running 30 yards to get to the top of the hills to get the shot, most are not capable of making a good kill shot past 200 yards and have no business trying.</p><p>I've seen and/ or put down wounded animals from hunters that took very low percentage/marginal shots. We owe it to the animals we hunt to be at our best and take them cleanly or pass the shot when it's not a good one.</p><p>Caliber does have a play in it but the person behind the gun is the most important part of the equation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brad Quarnberg, post: 1534628, member: 107866"] I’ve shot 5 bull and 4 cow elk and been involved in tracking, packing etc. in another dozen or so (also taken 8 Alaska Yukon Moose including a 64inch monster, and been involved in another dozen or so kills: they are also a tough animal) I have shot a couple of real nice bull elk, and taken a couple with a 270WSM. It is very accurate and deadly with my hand loads with 140gr accubond bullets, but I’ve kept my shots around 200 yards. My go to for elk is my 300WSM (although before the WSM’s came out it was a 300 Win Mag) or my 325WSM depending on terrain etc. (also my go to Moose gun after they came out). I now live in Germany and a few months ago got my German Hunting license. The minimum caliber for all big game (Roe deer are not considered big game) is 6.5mm. However, within the last couple of months some areas have changed that minimum caliber to 7mm because of wounded animals. All hunting areas in Germany are owned by a lease holder or the state and require a tracking (rigorous certification process to be licensed and I’m talking about the dog) dog be available in case of wounded animals. It cuts down on the number of lost animals but it still happens and the hunter who shot it has to pay for the game animal that was lost which can be very pricey). Because of that, hunters are generally much more careful about the shot placement, distance etc. before pulling the trigger. I have seen animals soak up the lead and keep going but after tracking them down found most of the billets to have failed (jacket separation etc.) and/or the placement not good for a quick kill. I’ve hunted with hunters that routinely make 700-800 yards shots on paper at the range all day long: taking their time, dipping the wind, on a bipod or sandbags, but those aren’t usual real world scenarios and when you add the adrenaline from a big animal and the heavy breathing from running 30 yards to get to the top of the hills to get the shot, most are not capable of making a good kill shot past 200 yards and have no business trying. I’ve seen and/ or put down wounded animals from hunters that took very low percentage/marginal shots. We owe it to the animals we hunt to be at our best and take them cleanly or pass the shot when it’s not a good one. Caliber does have a play in it but the person behind the gun is the most important part of the equation. [/QUOTE]
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