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<blockquote data-quote="Elk Fire" data-source="post: 1531602" data-attributes="member: 102131"><p>I have killed over 30 for my self, guided (paid) a dozen or so and guided (unpaid) way more than I have killed. </p><p>243- up to the 338's. Several muzzle loader hunts as well. Lots of archery elk as well. I vastly prefer to archery hunt elk, but don't turn my nose up at a rifle hunt. Shot them from 750 yards to less than 29 inches. ( my arrows are 29 1/4 inches long and my arrow didn't make it off the rest before it hit him)</p><p>Elk can be incredibly tough animals, their will to survive is amazing.</p><p>For most of my hunting I have always subscribed to tough bullets that can penetrate deep and break bones if needed. There was a time not long ago that I would have argued until I was blue in the face that the trophy bonded bear claws are the best elk bullet ever created and likely ever will be created.... I am currently experimenting with more explosive bullets. Mostly due to getting into longer range capable guns and optics. Jury is still out on that in my experience. Only have a dozen or so elk with thinner jacketed bullets. </p><p>Shot placement is everything, it's quite simple really in my mind. If you damage both lungs, that elk will die pretty quick.... I have chased a lot of elk way past any reasonable distance that "were hit right behind the shoulder". In truth you don't really know what happened until you get to gut them and examin the damage. I have whitenessed otherwise normal people completely loose their chit in the face of a screaming bull at close range. They could barely tell you their name let alone reliably relay where the shot went.... I have shot elk where I was calm and collected, I was confident on shot location, range, equipment... only to have it go sideways when I got to examine the internal damage. For this, I subscribe fully to always make the first shot count, but if that elk is still up, it's head is still up, or whatever makes you think there is even a chance it has the ability to get up, keep shooting. </p><p>I am all about not pushing a wounded animal, but if the opportunity is there to poke more holes in an elk, I will do it every time. Even if that means additional meat damage, or less than optimal shot placement. After blood is drawn, i get on the elk and stay on them until the job is finished...</p><p>The worst losses I have been around were elk that dropped at the shot and the high fives and BS started only for somebody to look back at it and say "what elk is that running away?"...</p><p>I am much more relived when a bull takes off running after a shot and slows up in a few yards and gets all wobbly legged then tips over on its nose. Those elk don't seem to get back up very often.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elk Fire, post: 1531602, member: 102131"] I have killed over 30 for my self, guided (paid) a dozen or so and guided (unpaid) way more than I have killed. 243- up to the 338’s. Several muzzle loader hunts as well. Lots of archery elk as well. I vastly prefer to archery hunt elk, but don’t turn my nose up at a rifle hunt. Shot them from 750 yards to less than 29 inches. ( my arrows are 29 1/4 inches long and my arrow didn’t make it off the rest before it hit him) Elk can be incredibly tough animals, their will to survive is amazing. For most of my hunting I have always subscribed to tough bullets that can penetrate deep and break bones if needed. There was a time not long ago that I would have argued until I was blue in the face that the trophy bonded bear claws are the best elk bullet ever created and likely ever will be created.... I am currently experimenting with more explosive bullets. Mostly due to getting into longer range capable guns and optics. Jury is still out on that in my experience. Only have a dozen or so elk with thinner jacketed bullets. Shot placement is everything, it’s quite simple really in my mind. If you damage both lungs, that elk will die pretty quick.... I have chased a lot of elk way past any reasonable distance that “were hit right behind the shoulder”. In truth you don’t really know what happened until you get to gut them and examin the damage. I have whitenessed otherwise normal people completely loose their chit in the face of a screaming bull at close range. They could barely tell you their name let alone reliably relay where the shot went.... I have shot elk where I was calm and collected, I was confident on shot location, range, equipment... only to have it go sideways when I got to examine the internal damage. For this, I subscribe fully to always make the first shot count, but if that elk is still up, it’s head is still up, or whatever makes you think there is even a chance it has the ability to get up, keep shooting. I am all about not pushing a wounded animal, but if the opportunity is there to poke more holes in an elk, I will do it every time. Even if that means additional meat damage, or less than optimal shot placement. After blood is drawn, i get on the elk and stay on them until the job is finished... The worst losses I have been around were elk that dropped at the shot and the high fives and BS started only for somebody to look back at it and say “what elk is that running away?”... I am much more relived when a bull takes off running after a shot and slows up in a few yards and gets all wobbly legged then tips over on its nose. Those elk don’t seem to get back up very often. [/QUOTE]
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