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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 1671596" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>I carry a Glock 20 with 200gr Nosler HP hand loads around 1250fps, will be carrying Buffalo Bore 220gr hard cast bullets for this year's black bear trip in Maine. The G20 is nice to have while waiting to be picked up by the guide at the end of the day, my biggest fear is running across a mother bear and here cub/s. I have been left in the woods from 9:00-10:45PM, it gets very dark and very noisy while doing so. If one is standing there waiting to be picked up, you have a loaded rifle in your hands, it is after legal shooting time, you then are hunting after dark! Maine is an "open-carry" state, as long as the handgun is exposed you are legal.</p><p></p><p>I've read a lot about the Glock 10mm with hard cast bullets, their effectiveness against grizzlies. I have never hunted grizzly bear, however I am not certain about the Glock20 and hard cast bullets and "probably" look for something with a bit more horsepower for grizzly medicine. A while back I read an article in a the American Hunter magazine where the "4-3-1" principle was recommended for a handgun against grizzlies. "(4) at least a bullet caliber of 44 (3) at least a bullet weight of 300 grains, and (1) at least a muzzle velocity of 1000fps.!</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2014/8/13/packing-pistols-in-bear-country/" target="_blank">https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2014/8/13/packing-pistols-in-bear-country/</a></p><p></p><p>I bike and kayak in some very remote areas, for those areas I always carry a S&W 340PD, more for the 2 legged predators than the 4 legged ones. The 340PD dispenses 5 rounds of.357 magnum out of a 14oz platform, not <u><em>a treasure to shoot</em></u>, however it does provide a nice warm fuzzy feeling for those bad moments; and, shooting that firearm in an actual situation I do not believe I will be worrying about/feeling recoil. The 340PD is light (14ozs), it is compact, and <u><em><strong>"is"</strong></em></u> the gun that I will carry instead of leaving it in the pack, or the glove compartment/console of the vehicle. A few years back while biking in Farmington, Connecticut one of the bikers, who was a few minutes behind us, nearly hit a sow and her cub crossing the bike path. When he met up with us, he was very shaken up stating he'd nearly hit the bear. My significant other <em>does not like firearms at all, I always carry when we are on our excursions anyway!! On the way back to the vehicle, the little</em> voice came out asking, "Do you have your little friend with you?" Response, "Yes and I have my gun with me too!"<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> And.....yes I have had one encounter, while alone on a bike trail, in a very remote area, with two men who saw an overweight, 65+, white-haired potential victim. The 340PD ended the event "in my favor", <u>without any further incident</u>. This was one of those experiences of "prevention", that was never reported, and will never be mentioned or measured in any statistics. <strong>Oregonian</strong>, hope I didn't hijack your post, felt that what I wrote was somewhat pertinent to your post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 1671596, member: 69192"] I carry a Glock 20 with 200gr Nosler HP hand loads around 1250fps, will be carrying Buffalo Bore 220gr hard cast bullets for this year's black bear trip in Maine. The G20 is nice to have while waiting to be picked up by the guide at the end of the day, my biggest fear is running across a mother bear and here cub/s. I have been left in the woods from 9:00-10:45PM, it gets very dark and very noisy while doing so. If one is standing there waiting to be picked up, you have a loaded rifle in your hands, it is after legal shooting time, you then are hunting after dark! Maine is an "open-carry" state, as long as the handgun is exposed you are legal. I've read a lot about the Glock 10mm with hard cast bullets, their effectiveness against grizzlies. I have never hunted grizzly bear, however I am not certain about the Glock20 and hard cast bullets and "probably" look for something with a bit more horsepower for grizzly medicine. A while back I read an article in a the American Hunter magazine where the "4-3-1" principle was recommended for a handgun against grizzlies. "(4) at least a bullet caliber of 44 (3) at least a bullet weight of 300 grains, and (1) at least a muzzle velocity of 1000fps.! [URL]https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2014/8/13/packing-pistols-in-bear-country/[/URL] I bike and kayak in some very remote areas, for those areas I always carry a S&W 340PD, more for the 2 legged predators than the 4 legged ones. The 340PD dispenses 5 rounds of.357 magnum out of a 14oz platform, not [U][I]a treasure to shoot[/I][/U], however it does provide a nice warm fuzzy feeling for those bad moments; and, shooting that firearm in an actual situation I do not believe I will be worrying about/feeling recoil. The 340PD is light (14ozs), it is compact, and [U][I][B]"is"[/B][/I][/U] the gun that I will carry instead of leaving it in the pack, or the glove compartment/console of the vehicle. A few years back while biking in Farmington, Connecticut one of the bikers, who was a few minutes behind us, nearly hit a sow and her cub crossing the bike path. When he met up with us, he was very shaken up stating he'd nearly hit the bear. My significant other [I]does not like firearms at all, I always carry when we are on our excursions anyway!! On the way back to the vehicle, the little[/I] voice came out asking, "Do you have your little friend with you?" Response, "Yes and I have my gun with me too!";):rolleyes: And.....yes I have had one encounter, while alone on a bike trail, in a very remote area, with two men who saw an overweight, 65+, white-haired potential victim. The 340PD ended the event "in my favor", [U]without any further incident[/U]. This was one of those experiences of "prevention", that was never reported, and will never be mentioned or measured in any statistics. [B]Oregonian[/B], hope I didn't hijack your post, felt that what I wrote was somewhat pertinent to your post. [/QUOTE]
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