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How light is too light...pros n cons??
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<blockquote data-quote="RobStar" data-source="post: 1276312" data-attributes="member: 75045"><p>Four or so years ago I had a custom 300WM built by Rifles, Inc. to weigh 4.5 lbs without scope. This was my all around elk hunting rifle as that's primarily what I do. With Scope I was at 6.9 lbs total. It was a great rifle!</p><p></p><p>The problem I ran into was as I began extending my effective range and shooting more often I simply could not deal with the recoil after 15-20 rounds. I found myself with 40 rounds of ammo and I'd look down at the box after 15 or so rounds and dread the rest of what I needed to do. I'm not a big guy but not a small guy either at 5'11" / 180 lbs</p><p></p><p>That led to nearly six months of research into building a slightly heavier rifle 6.9 lbs and 9.5 lbs with scope. It's not a lot more but every ounce counts. After months and months of research I settled on 7mm Rem Mag which is not a lot smaller but it is all incremental and additive.</p><p></p><p>By moving away from a 180gr 300wm TTSX, to a 7mm RM shooting 162gr ELD-X, the much better BC of the ELD-X gave me a full 200 yard reach over the 300 TTSX and still retaining the same terminal ballistics of the 300wm.</p><p></p><p>At least "on paper" I was able to guestimate / calculate about a 30% reduction in recoil. As for felt recoil it is like night and day. The 7mm RM is still a magnum round with plenty of punch but I can now shoot 50+ rounds at the range with little or no recoil fatigue.</p><p></p><p>I killed a bull elk, two mule deer bucks and two antelope bucks with the 7mm RM / 162gr ELD-X this year and they died just the same as they did with the 300wm. They all dropped right where I shot them other than one mule deer that ran 20 feet. They all still wiggled around on the ground a bit but only for maybe 30 secs or less. I'm loving this new gun and caliber! Photo below.</p><p></p><p>Now, if I were not hunting elk, I'd probably scale back to a 6.5 Creedmoor or variant. I'm sure a metric butt load of guys here kill elk and larger animals with 6.5 and much smaller but that's not my interest and I'm not posting this to debate it either. I have a moose hunt this coming September and if I don't use my bow, I'll use the 7mm with maybe a slightly heavier bullet.</p><p></p><p>That's my story of 300wm to 7mm RM and I'm sticking to it! Take a good hard look at 7mm and some of the new high BC hunting bullets. Compare those to similar weight traditional bullets for the 300 and I think you'll see how I came to my decision.</p><p></p><p>~Robert</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobStar, post: 1276312, member: 75045"] Four or so years ago I had a custom 300WM built by Rifles, Inc. to weigh 4.5 lbs without scope. This was my all around elk hunting rifle as that's primarily what I do. With Scope I was at 6.9 lbs total. It was a great rifle! The problem I ran into was as I began extending my effective range and shooting more often I simply could not deal with the recoil after 15-20 rounds. I found myself with 40 rounds of ammo and I'd look down at the box after 15 or so rounds and dread the rest of what I needed to do. I'm not a big guy but not a small guy either at 5'11" / 180 lbs That led to nearly six months of research into building a slightly heavier rifle 6.9 lbs and 9.5 lbs with scope. It's not a lot more but every ounce counts. After months and months of research I settled on 7mm Rem Mag which is not a lot smaller but it is all incremental and additive. By moving away from a 180gr 300wm TTSX, to a 7mm RM shooting 162gr ELD-X, the much better BC of the ELD-X gave me a full 200 yard reach over the 300 TTSX and still retaining the same terminal ballistics of the 300wm. At least "on paper" I was able to guestimate / calculate about a 30% reduction in recoil. As for felt recoil it is like night and day. The 7mm RM is still a magnum round with plenty of punch but I can now shoot 50+ rounds at the range with little or no recoil fatigue. I killed a bull elk, two mule deer bucks and two antelope bucks with the 7mm RM / 162gr ELD-X this year and they died just the same as they did with the 300wm. They all dropped right where I shot them other than one mule deer that ran 20 feet. They all still wiggled around on the ground a bit but only for maybe 30 secs or less. I'm loving this new gun and caliber! Photo below. Now, if I were not hunting elk, I'd probably scale back to a 6.5 Creedmoor or variant. I'm sure a metric butt load of guys here kill elk and larger animals with 6.5 and much smaller but that's not my interest and I'm not posting this to debate it either. I have a moose hunt this coming September and if I don't use my bow, I'll use the 7mm with maybe a slightly heavier bullet. That's my story of 300wm to 7mm RM and I'm sticking to it! Take a good hard look at 7mm and some of the new high BC hunting bullets. Compare those to similar weight traditional bullets for the 300 and I think you'll see how I came to my decision. ~Robert [/QUOTE]
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