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How important is clarity in a scope.?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ian M" data-source="post: 16713" data-attributes="member: 25"><p>Jake,</p><p>I found a really interesting site that covers much of the stuff we are discussing. Check out:</p><p> <a href="http://www.charm.net/~kmarsh/scope.html" target="_blank">http://www.charm.net/~kmarsh/scope.html</a> </p><p></p><p>Check out the media lies section.</p><p>Some of what that guy says is very good stuff, particularly about the fact that many brands come out of the same **** factory.</p><p></p><p>Like women, trucks, cars or rifle actions, we all seem to have strong preferences, guess that is a natural thing. I believe that your "expensive" scopes will last much longer and continue performing at the same level of perormance for much longer than the cheaper stuff those guys are saticefied with. </p><p></p><p>I worked at a place where we got issued binocs. Guys who were in the field a lot literally went through cheap binocs about every three - four years, but they were "good enough". I got a pair of "expensive" binocs and several of those guys said it was a waste of money. The standard issue binocs cost about 70-90 bucks, mine cost the gov't about 450 at the time. Within two years everyone was asking for the same quality, and we quit buying binocs for a long time. Mine lasted almost 25 years and they were used hard. Had a lot of hard drops, soakings, stuff piled on them, whatever but they worked great. </p><p></p><p>I believe that under optimum conditions there might not be a significant visualy difference between your Nightforce and my Simmons Whitetail Special. But my Simmons scope started to rattle like a can containing marbles after only five years of use. Plus if we happen to be looking through our scopes somewhat towards (not at) the sun I get a collection of weird flare spots and rings that you don't. Plus you can probably make a shot about fifteen minutes later in the day than I can, because your lenses simply allow more light to pass through. Plus your turret will move your point of impact one inch straight up when you put on four clicks, mine might but I might get some windage as a bonus, or nothing happens until after the next shot. I will end up sighted in, but without the confidence that I can trust my turrets to do a simple job.</p><p></p><p>I believe that there are times when the good optics literally will enable you to see when the cheap stuff won't. One graphic example was spotting geese - the guys with the good glass could see geese way out there far before the cheap binocs could define the flocks. Same with spotting deer and counting points on a rack, there is a difference, believe me. Same with seeing bullet holes in the black, good glass will do better every time. Probably the bottom line is that guys who really count on optics for their jobs, like hunting guides, tend to use the best glass they can get their hands on. Must be a reason for that.</p><p></p><p>You are fortunate to have some very nice scopes, just enjoy shooting them and ignore the guys who don't know or appreciate what good is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ian M, post: 16713, member: 25"] Jake, I found a really interesting site that covers much of the stuff we are discussing. Check out: [url="http://www.charm.net/~kmarsh/scope.html"]http://www.charm.net/~kmarsh/scope.html[/url] Check out the media lies section. Some of what that guy says is very good stuff, particularly about the fact that many brands come out of the same **** factory. Like women, trucks, cars or rifle actions, we all seem to have strong preferences, guess that is a natural thing. I believe that your "expensive" scopes will last much longer and continue performing at the same level of perormance for much longer than the cheaper stuff those guys are saticefied with. I worked at a place where we got issued binocs. Guys who were in the field a lot literally went through cheap binocs about every three - four years, but they were "good enough". I got a pair of "expensive" binocs and several of those guys said it was a waste of money. The standard issue binocs cost about 70-90 bucks, mine cost the gov't about 450 at the time. Within two years everyone was asking for the same quality, and we quit buying binocs for a long time. Mine lasted almost 25 years and they were used hard. Had a lot of hard drops, soakings, stuff piled on them, whatever but they worked great. I believe that under optimum conditions there might not be a significant visualy difference between your Nightforce and my Simmons Whitetail Special. But my Simmons scope started to rattle like a can containing marbles after only five years of use. Plus if we happen to be looking through our scopes somewhat towards (not at) the sun I get a collection of weird flare spots and rings that you don't. Plus you can probably make a shot about fifteen minutes later in the day than I can, because your lenses simply allow more light to pass through. Plus your turret will move your point of impact one inch straight up when you put on four clicks, mine might but I might get some windage as a bonus, or nothing happens until after the next shot. I will end up sighted in, but without the confidence that I can trust my turrets to do a simple job. I believe that there are times when the good optics literally will enable you to see when the cheap stuff won't. One graphic example was spotting geese - the guys with the good glass could see geese way out there far before the cheap binocs could define the flocks. Same with spotting deer and counting points on a rack, there is a difference, believe me. Same with seeing bullet holes in the black, good glass will do better every time. Probably the bottom line is that guys who really count on optics for their jobs, like hunting guides, tend to use the best glass they can get their hands on. Must be a reason for that. You are fortunate to have some very nice scopes, just enjoy shooting them and ignore the guys who don't know or appreciate what good is. [/QUOTE]
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