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Hornady Replaces Berger on Gunwerks
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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 859375" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>For long range hunting, the A-Max bullets work great, always have, but they have to be used in a very specialized way. You really have to be careful to match them up well to your muzzle velocity, game hunted and range you will be hunting at.</p><p> </p><p>At close range, with muzzle velocities over 3000 fps, they are going to expand VIOLENTLY, even more so then the berger. At ranges under 300 yards you better be careful on anything larger then medium deer. </p><p> </p><p>As range increases, they fall into their comfort zone and really start to perform well. From 400 yards out to 1/2 mile or so, they are nearly identical to the bergers in terminal performance from what I have seen and witnessed from others using them.</p><p> </p><p>At ranges past 1000 yards, I would say they expand more reliably then the bergers simply because of their tipped design.</p><p> </p><p>That said, I have also seen them fail miserably at closer ranges. My brother hammered a big mule deer buck dead in the shoulder at just shy of 300 yards many years ago with his 7mm STW, flattened the buck only to see him jump up and dive into a coulee not to be seen again until he was a mile away and on property where we had no chance to recover him.</p><p> </p><p>At the impact site, we found the broken off shoulder knuckle. Now, how this bone was blown out of the deer on a broadside shot and not enough damage was done to the vitals to stop the animal for over 2 miles of running is still a mystery to both of us.</p><p> </p><p>Had the shot impacted an inch farther back, likely it would have taken out both lungs with ease. </p><p> </p><p>My point is simply this. Remember what these bullets are. We get into a lot of trouble sometimes with match bullets which perform VERY well at long range but then when most hunters take them out thinking they will use them at long range and an animal shows up at 150 to 200 yards or on hard angled shots, these bullets are asked to do work they were NOT intended to do.</p><p> </p><p>The higher the muzzle velocity, the poorer your results will be at closer ranges or on harder quartering shot angles. Keep this in mind and understand the weaknesses and strengths of your bullets and use them as they should be.</p><p> </p><p>If misused, we will be hearing more about A-max failures just as we hear from time to time about Berger bullet failures when in fact, 99% of the time its simply the error in the hunter using the wrong bullet for the job at hand.</p><p> </p><p>Used correctly, the A-Max and Berger will perform amazingly well. Used incorrectly, things can go bad very quickly. Last bit of recommendation, use the heaviest A-Max you can use in your rifle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 859375, member: 10"] For long range hunting, the A-Max bullets work great, always have, but they have to be used in a very specialized way. You really have to be careful to match them up well to your muzzle velocity, game hunted and range you will be hunting at. At close range, with muzzle velocities over 3000 fps, they are going to expand VIOLENTLY, even more so then the berger. At ranges under 300 yards you better be careful on anything larger then medium deer. As range increases, they fall into their comfort zone and really start to perform well. From 400 yards out to 1/2 mile or so, they are nearly identical to the bergers in terminal performance from what I have seen and witnessed from others using them. At ranges past 1000 yards, I would say they expand more reliably then the bergers simply because of their tipped design. That said, I have also seen them fail miserably at closer ranges. My brother hammered a big mule deer buck dead in the shoulder at just shy of 300 yards many years ago with his 7mm STW, flattened the buck only to see him jump up and dive into a coulee not to be seen again until he was a mile away and on property where we had no chance to recover him. At the impact site, we found the broken off shoulder knuckle. Now, how this bone was blown out of the deer on a broadside shot and not enough damage was done to the vitals to stop the animal for over 2 miles of running is still a mystery to both of us. Had the shot impacted an inch farther back, likely it would have taken out both lungs with ease. My point is simply this. Remember what these bullets are. We get into a lot of trouble sometimes with match bullets which perform VERY well at long range but then when most hunters take them out thinking they will use them at long range and an animal shows up at 150 to 200 yards or on hard angled shots, these bullets are asked to do work they were NOT intended to do. The higher the muzzle velocity, the poorer your results will be at closer ranges or on harder quartering shot angles. Keep this in mind and understand the weaknesses and strengths of your bullets and use them as they should be. If misused, we will be hearing more about A-max failures just as we hear from time to time about Berger bullet failures when in fact, 99% of the time its simply the error in the hunter using the wrong bullet for the job at hand. Used correctly, the A-Max and Berger will perform amazingly well. Used incorrectly, things can go bad very quickly. Last bit of recommendation, use the heaviest A-Max you can use in your rifle. [/QUOTE]
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