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<blockquote data-quote="birdiemc" data-source="post: 1554673" data-attributes="member: 29632"><p>My old church had a group of guys that would get together and do outdoors stuff, kinda an outreach for men who didnt want to hold hands and sing while some idiot in skinny Jean's played the bongos...well anyway we got invited out to a ranch to follow a helicopter and recover downed hogs they were shooting from in the air. Then we butchered the hogs and donated the meat to orphanages in Mexico, homeless, stuff like that. Well first year we were just there to recover. After watching that all day I got to talking with the guys running things and next year we changed it up, let the helo flush the hogs out to the pasture, 40-50 guys in a firing line wait till the helo clears them open fire. there were folks from 12yrs old-70 out there, folks that hunted all their lives to folks that went to walmart the night before and bought their first rifle (almost) there were tons of .223 AR's out there. Some guy had a 30-30, some 308s, I saw a .338, .300RUM, couple 243s, some 270s, I was carrying a 7mag. Cartridges were pretty much all over the place. Some of the hogs we recovered had little 22cal holes all down the sides. Some had one big massive hole in the head. A few had one single 22cal hole in the head. I was standing by one of those tacticool fellows shooting his brand new AR 223 and a big sow came out about 250-275 yards broadside and we both shot, as the hog is literally rolling feet up he screams yeah I got it. Point is we had lots of inexperienced guys out there shooting .223 and putting thousands of rounds in the air, not so many in the hogs. They were too excited, couldnt calm down, spray and pray. We had experienced guys shooting off hand 200 yard shots with large calibers rolling them. I know of one guy in particular who killed more than all the rest of us put together, he was taking head shots .223. Hes good. If you're good enough you can get by with less desirable cartridges. If all you happen to own at the time is a 7mag, then shoot it. If you want to see how your 300RUM does on pigs have fun. Experience makes the difference. And not just paper, experience shooting living creatures, cuz once you aim in on something that's alive it's a whole different world than sitting at a bench with sandbags perfectly supporting your rifle at known distances.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="birdiemc, post: 1554673, member: 29632"] My old church had a group of guys that would get together and do outdoors stuff, kinda an outreach for men who didnt want to hold hands and sing while some idiot in skinny Jean's played the bongos...well anyway we got invited out to a ranch to follow a helicopter and recover downed hogs they were shooting from in the air. Then we butchered the hogs and donated the meat to orphanages in Mexico, homeless, stuff like that. Well first year we were just there to recover. After watching that all day I got to talking with the guys running things and next year we changed it up, let the helo flush the hogs out to the pasture, 40-50 guys in a firing line wait till the helo clears them open fire. there were folks from 12yrs old-70 out there, folks that hunted all their lives to folks that went to walmart the night before and bought their first rifle (almost) there were tons of .223 AR's out there. Some guy had a 30-30, some 308s, I saw a .338, .300RUM, couple 243s, some 270s, I was carrying a 7mag. Cartridges were pretty much all over the place. Some of the hogs we recovered had little 22cal holes all down the sides. Some had one big massive hole in the head. A few had one single 22cal hole in the head. I was standing by one of those tacticool fellows shooting his brand new AR 223 and a big sow came out about 250-275 yards broadside and we both shot, as the hog is literally rolling feet up he screams yeah I got it. Point is we had lots of inexperienced guys out there shooting .223 and putting thousands of rounds in the air, not so many in the hogs. They were too excited, couldnt calm down, spray and pray. We had experienced guys shooting off hand 200 yard shots with large calibers rolling them. I know of one guy in particular who killed more than all the rest of us put together, he was taking head shots .223. Hes good. If you're good enough you can get by with less desirable cartridges. If all you happen to own at the time is a 7mag, then shoot it. If you want to see how your 300RUM does on pigs have fun. Experience makes the difference. And not just paper, experience shooting living creatures, cuz once you aim in on something that's alive it's a whole different world than sitting at a bench with sandbags perfectly supporting your rifle at known distances. [/QUOTE]
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