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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 346095" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>I dont know how I missed this thread until now <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p> </p><p><strong>Adapt</strong>, <strong>Improvise</strong> and <strong>Overcome</strong>. Do those words sound familiar to anyone? It sounds to me that is exactley what Rob Furlong was doing. I have read a couple of accounts of that story and I am not at all disappointed with his shot(s), whatever you wish to call it, luck or skill. The fact that he was using unfamiliar ammo makes it all the more incredible in my eyes. It took three shots from 2430 m,each getting closer. Anyone here that could do better? Sorry, I see very little luck in that and Bill is correct about the proper definition of luck. </p><p> </p><p>What we have hear is a high level of skill. At that range, the the rifle/load degree of error combined with enviromental factors is probably larger than the human body. It takes skill to get to that window and it takes a certain element of probable chance (what some refer to as luck) to hit something smaller in that window. Any disagreement so far?</p><p> </p><p>GG, no offense, but what you saw as disappointing - the fact he was using unfamiliar ammo, rifle not tuned and sight for that ammo, heating cartrdges in the sun to extract the most he could, etc. - I saw all this as WOW, and he got the job done. GG, dude, this is combat. This isn't BR, or rock chucks or elk. You do what you can to get the job done. Adapt, improvise and overcome! Are you suggesting he shouldn't have taken the shot because he was not confident in a one shot kill? And that because it took three shots, it was luck? In my eyes, each one of those shots were amazing and I was very impressed unlike some here. Was he better or as good as Carlos? Who knows and who cares? They were both very good at what they did.</p><p> </p><p>One shot, one kill is always better, but is not always necessary for snipers. In hunting big game we value and respect the game we are hunting as a resource. This is not the case with enemy human targets. And GG, I know you were not trying to disparage the snipers in question, but still... disappointing???</p><p> </p><p>Buffalobob and RSG2... hats off to you.</p><p> </p><p>Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 346095, member: 11717"] I dont know how I missed this thread until now :rolleyes: [B]Adapt[/B], [B]Improvise[/B] and [B]Overcome[/B]. Do those words sound familiar to anyone? It sounds to me that is exactley what Rob Furlong was doing. I have read a couple of accounts of that story and I am not at all disappointed with his shot(s), whatever you wish to call it, luck or skill. The fact that he was using unfamiliar ammo makes it all the more incredible in my eyes. It took three shots from 2430 m,each getting closer. Anyone here that could do better? Sorry, I see very little luck in that and Bill is correct about the proper definition of luck. What we have hear is a high level of skill. At that range, the the rifle/load degree of error combined with enviromental factors is probably larger than the human body. It takes skill to get to that window and it takes a certain element of probable chance (what some refer to as luck) to hit something smaller in that window. Any disagreement so far? GG, no offense, but what you saw as disappointing - the fact he was using unfamiliar ammo, rifle not tuned and sight for that ammo, heating cartrdges in the sun to extract the most he could, etc. - I saw all this as WOW, and he got the job done. GG, dude, this is combat. This isn't BR, or rock chucks or elk. You do what you can to get the job done. Adapt, improvise and overcome! Are you suggesting he shouldn't have taken the shot because he was not confident in a one shot kill? And that because it took three shots, it was luck? In my eyes, each one of those shots were amazing and I was very impressed unlike some here. Was he better or as good as Carlos? Who knows and who cares? They were both very good at what they did. One shot, one kill is always better, but is not always necessary for snipers. In hunting big game we value and respect the game we are hunting as a resource. This is not the case with enemy human targets. And GG, I know you were not trying to disparage the snipers in question, but still... disappointing??? Buffalobob and RSG2... hats off to you. Mark [/QUOTE]
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