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<blockquote data-quote="257RobertsMan" data-source="post: 1754127" data-attributes="member: 111366"><p>I'm relatively new to the forum here and mostly in the shadows and keep from showing my lack of knowledge on long range shooting/hunting by keeping my mouth shut. However, I've taken unknown numbers of critters and more deer than most have probably seen. Not bragging, just was born and raised in a state with a liberal buck limit of one per day from mid October thru the end of January. Dog hunting was allowed and deer that has ran any distance at all have lots of adrenalin and are not easily taken, just like a poorly hit animal in any other part of the world that is not being pushed by dogs, but is in it's wounded/flight response. Once this has happened, wounded or ran/pushed for a distance, it takes more than your typical shot to anchor any animal. That being said, we purposely shot sholders in some instances to put animals on the ground and most (not all) required a quick second follow up shot. This was done with rifles with med to heavy for caliber bullets or shotgun slugs that hit like a freight train.</p><p></p><p>I said all that to clarify this, the correctly placed mid to slightly high shoulder hit is a deadly and awesome sight to see, a poorly placed shot in the shoulder is a disaster (as well as a poorly placed shot anywhere else). While I've seen animals lost with poorly placed shoulder shots and yes poorly placed neck shots, I've never seen an animal go far that had a hole in it's heart or heart & lungs even from a 22LR, much less a centerfire with a properly constructed bullet. If you shoot for shoulders you best have the gun and bullet combo that will destroy shoulders, big bones and continue thru the opposite shoulder and even then be prepared to follow up with a boiler room shot if the junction of the shoulder & neck/spine is not hit. This area is in front of and above the chest cavity on deer, elk or any other critter and does not contain heart or lungs but does control lots of CNS functions and if hit will put an animal down immediately, however it may not expire immediately. Shot placement close to this region has the same effect but is temporary and the animal will get up and in most cases is lost unless a follow up shot is administered. </p><p></p><p>I'm not condemning shoulder shots, I use them in certain situations myself, however I like to see blood freely flowing out of the chest cavity, their not going far.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="257RobertsMan, post: 1754127, member: 111366"] I'm relatively new to the forum here and mostly in the shadows and keep from showing my lack of knowledge on long range shooting/hunting by keeping my mouth shut. However, I've taken unknown numbers of critters and more deer than most have probably seen. Not bragging, just was born and raised in a state with a liberal buck limit of one per day from mid October thru the end of January. Dog hunting was allowed and deer that has ran any distance at all have lots of adrenalin and are not easily taken, just like a poorly hit animal in any other part of the world that is not being pushed by dogs, but is in it's wounded/flight response. Once this has happened, wounded or ran/pushed for a distance, it takes more than your typical shot to anchor any animal. That being said, we purposely shot sholders in some instances to put animals on the ground and most (not all) required a quick second follow up shot. This was done with rifles with med to heavy for caliber bullets or shotgun slugs that hit like a freight train. I said all that to clarify this, the correctly placed mid to slightly high shoulder hit is a deadly and awesome sight to see, a poorly placed shot in the shoulder is a disaster (as well as a poorly placed shot anywhere else). While I've seen animals lost with poorly placed shoulder shots and yes poorly placed neck shots, I've never seen an animal go far that had a hole in it's heart or heart & lungs even from a 22LR, much less a centerfire with a properly constructed bullet. If you shoot for shoulders you best have the gun and bullet combo that will destroy shoulders, big bones and continue thru the opposite shoulder and even then be prepared to follow up with a boiler room shot if the junction of the shoulder & neck/spine is not hit. This area is in front of and above the chest cavity on deer, elk or any other critter and does not contain heart or lungs but does control lots of CNS functions and if hit will put an animal down immediately, however it may not expire immediately. Shot placement close to this region has the same effect but is temporary and the animal will get up and in most cases is lost unless a follow up shot is administered. I'm not condemning shoulder shots, I use them in certain situations myself, however I like to see blood freely flowing out of the chest cavity, their not going far. [/QUOTE]
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