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Help the Marine Corps decide on a new caliber for their sniper rifles
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<blockquote data-quote="Shawn Carlock" data-source="post: 176470" data-attributes="member: 4"><p>I of course designed the 338 Edge in it's first form as a HTIR ( Hard Target Interdiction Rifle : Pronounced "Hitter" ). My initial version was built to be a rifle capable light hard target work (penetrating 1/4" mild steel @1000 yds was my standard) and anti-personel work out to 1760 yards. What eventually happened was it's success in the long range hunting world and the evolution into what is now the "standard 338 Edge hunting rifle". In this platform it weighs under 15 lbs field ready bipod included. The Edge holds one more round than a Lapua Mag and feeds much better than the LM. The LM version requires a "super mag " boltface upping the LM cost. So far as ammunition is concerned when I first built the first HTIR I contacted 2 different custom loaders and both assured me that since they already had military contracts loading the "Edge" would not be an issue as long as a certain minimum quanity was purchased. The 300 gr SMK load @ 2800 fps is a consistant load, brutaly accurate and performs all of the tasks I originally outlined for it. The big bonus is it is lighter than most current issue military 308 sniper rifles. The 18 lb 308 version fielded by a certain branch of the military is stupid. Knowing several of the end users and all agree that it was obviously not designed by the guys in the field nor was much input considered from them. Much like revamping the M40 series (on a long action ) to 300 Win Mag they could just as easly be revamped to 338 Edge. I believe that they just need new rifles designed for the job and not for the marksmanship units competition division. There are a couple of items I would do different to the standard hunting version to make it with stand the hardships of combat but only a couple. I would absolutely run a positive bolt stop, Sako or M16 extractor, fixed blade ejector to ditch the spring loaded plunger assy, and a robust detachable box mag assy. This is just my version based on long range shooting / hunting more than my Law Enforcement background. I believe that if you want a precision long range tactical rifle build one if you wabt a rifle to engage under 800 yards they have explored much better options than a 16+ lb 308 bolt rifle already. If it seems like I am opinionated on this I am, I am tired of our guys being saddeled with equipment that just is not up to the task. If they need 1500+ yard capability I say we do what we can to give it to them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shawn Carlock, post: 176470, member: 4"] I of course designed the 338 Edge in it's first form as a HTIR ( Hard Target Interdiction Rifle : Pronounced "Hitter" ). My initial version was built to be a rifle capable light hard target work (penetrating 1/4" mild steel @1000 yds was my standard) and anti-personel work out to 1760 yards. What eventually happened was it's success in the long range hunting world and the evolution into what is now the "standard 338 Edge hunting rifle". In this platform it weighs under 15 lbs field ready bipod included. The Edge holds one more round than a Lapua Mag and feeds much better than the LM. The LM version requires a "super mag " boltface upping the LM cost. So far as ammunition is concerned when I first built the first HTIR I contacted 2 different custom loaders and both assured me that since they already had military contracts loading the "Edge" would not be an issue as long as a certain minimum quanity was purchased. The 300 gr SMK load @ 2800 fps is a consistant load, brutaly accurate and performs all of the tasks I originally outlined for it. The big bonus is it is lighter than most current issue military 308 sniper rifles. The 18 lb 308 version fielded by a certain branch of the military is stupid. Knowing several of the end users and all agree that it was obviously not designed by the guys in the field nor was much input considered from them. Much like revamping the M40 series (on a long action ) to 300 Win Mag they could just as easly be revamped to 338 Edge. I believe that they just need new rifles designed for the job and not for the marksmanship units competition division. There are a couple of items I would do different to the standard hunting version to make it with stand the hardships of combat but only a couple. I would absolutely run a positive bolt stop, Sako or M16 extractor, fixed blade ejector to ditch the spring loaded plunger assy, and a robust detachable box mag assy. This is just my version based on long range shooting / hunting more than my Law Enforcement background. I believe that if you want a precision long range tactical rifle build one if you wabt a rifle to engage under 800 yards they have explored much better options than a 16+ lb 308 bolt rifle already. If it seems like I am opinionated on this I am, I am tired of our guys being saddeled with equipment that just is not up to the task. If they need 1500+ yard capability I say we do what we can to give it to them. [/QUOTE]
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