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<blockquote data-quote="WildRose" data-source="post: 995907" data-attributes="member: 30902"><p>I think the problem here is that you are rushed and frustrated due to the time constraints which tends to make us get pretty myopic, unable to properly evaluate situations.</p><p></p><p>The other problem is that there are still multiple issues.</p><p></p><p>One, I still think at the heart of it there's a driver issue and until it's resolved you're just not going to to solve the rest.</p><p></p><p>Two, you have a long throat and you are trying to shoot short bullets which means no matter what you end up doing you are going to have a long jump into the lans.</p><p></p><p>Let's try this. Get yourself some empty lead shot bags fill them with sand and sew them up.</p><p></p><p>Get out on your bench. </p><p></p><p>Get your rifle set at the proper height to give you good sight alignment to the target by stacking sandbags perpendicular to the length of your rifle.</p><p></p><p>Then lay sandbags along each side of the stack sort of sandwiching the stock between them nice and snug.</p><p></p><p>Shoot a group with your best load to this point.</p><p></p><p>This will eliminate for all practical purposes the "jump" upwards you are having to deal with, without putting stress out at the end of the forearm creating the likelihood of contact between the barrel and stock.</p><p></p><p>If this gives you a much better group than what you've had so far, then it tells you what you need to first solve is the muzzle flip issue.</p><p></p><p>If it were me I'd go get some 180's, even if it's just one box of good factory ammo and see if they don't work better for you.</p><p></p><p>You are using an extremely light bullet for a .30 cal and I've never had good results reaching to the bottom on the weight scale for a given caliber. Yes there's less recoil typically but with quality bullets the heavier will typically fly better/more accurately than those at the bottom end.</p><p></p><p>I feel your frustration. Went through the same thing many years ago with a 7mm Rem 700bdl. I ended up so frustrated over that rifle It was over 20 years before I owned another Remington. While the rifle had problems, much of the problem was me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WildRose, post: 995907, member: 30902"] I think the problem here is that you are rushed and frustrated due to the time constraints which tends to make us get pretty myopic, unable to properly evaluate situations. The other problem is that there are still multiple issues. One, I still think at the heart of it there's a driver issue and until it's resolved you're just not going to to solve the rest. Two, you have a long throat and you are trying to shoot short bullets which means no matter what you end up doing you are going to have a long jump into the lans. Let's try this. Get yourself some empty lead shot bags fill them with sand and sew them up. Get out on your bench. Get your rifle set at the proper height to give you good sight alignment to the target by stacking sandbags perpendicular to the length of your rifle. Then lay sandbags along each side of the stack sort of sandwiching the stock between them nice and snug. Shoot a group with your best load to this point. This will eliminate for all practical purposes the "jump" upwards you are having to deal with, without putting stress out at the end of the forearm creating the likelihood of contact between the barrel and stock. If this gives you a much better group than what you've had so far, then it tells you what you need to first solve is the muzzle flip issue. If it were me I'd go get some 180's, even if it's just one box of good factory ammo and see if they don't work better for you. You are using an extremely light bullet for a .30 cal and I've never had good results reaching to the bottom on the weight scale for a given caliber. Yes there's less recoil typically but with quality bullets the heavier will typically fly better/more accurately than those at the bottom end. I feel your frustration. Went through the same thing many years ago with a 7mm Rem 700bdl. I ended up so frustrated over that rifle It was over 20 years before I owned another Remington. While the rifle had problems, much of the problem was me. [/QUOTE]
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