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HELP: Out of Windage - Scope Base Screw Hole Alignment Check?
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<blockquote data-quote="SidecarFlip" data-source="post: 698709" data-attributes="member: 39764"><p>My 11-111 in 338 shoots very well and exhibits none of the tendencies or quirks discussed on this site in many threads. Of course I don't chamber Hornady brass. It's a Lapua so it chambers Lapua. Why buy anything else.</p><p> </p><p>If the mount tappings are out of alignment, it's a quirk just like my pistol is.</p><p> </p><p>Keep in mind that even though their firearms (Savage) are made on machines, some of them CNC, the human factor is still present so the chance of a fock up is present too.</p><p> </p><p>Also keep in mind that an mis-alignment of just a few thousands of an inch will be greatly amplified and extreme distance, the longer the shot, the more agregious the alignment becomes which is why at 50 feet, I can still shoot my pistol accurately but I'd never be able to hit anything if the target was at 200 yards and the pistol was a rifle with the same alignment error.</p><p> </p><p>I know it's misaligned (pistol) by looking at the sight's relationship to the rail and the rail's relationship to the receiver. That is something you can't see with a scope because the compensation for the misalignment is done internally in the erector mechanism, the scope's physical alignment never changes.... Which is why I say the chamber/receiver has to be fixtured (jigged) and aligned and the rail/base mounting holes need to be cherked for parallelism and trueness to the receiver/chamber centerline, not something you can do at home or an average gunsmith can do. That takes very specialized precision equipment and skill.</p><p> </p><p>Gun manufacturers already have that equipment as well as go and no go fixtures for checking alignment as it pertains to production firearms. Yours (and mine) somehow escaped that check, like I said previously, the human factor rears it's head.</p><p> </p><p>If it was me, in lieu of fiddling with it, I'd be calling Savage on Monday, explaining <strong>exactly</strong> what is occuring and <strong>ask</strong> their opinion or if they want the firearm returned directly or through an FFL.</p><p> </p><p>As I said before, the BATF registers the firearm based on the receiver so if the receiver has to be changed out, it will have to be re-registered.</p><p> </p><p>You need to consider another firearm for hunting this year......<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SidecarFlip, post: 698709, member: 39764"] My 11-111 in 338 shoots very well and exhibits none of the tendencies or quirks discussed on this site in many threads. Of course I don't chamber Hornady brass. It's a Lapua so it chambers Lapua. Why buy anything else. If the mount tappings are out of alignment, it's a quirk just like my pistol is. Keep in mind that even though their firearms (Savage) are made on machines, some of them CNC, the human factor is still present so the chance of a fock up is present too. Also keep in mind that an mis-alignment of just a few thousands of an inch will be greatly amplified and extreme distance, the longer the shot, the more agregious the alignment becomes which is why at 50 feet, I can still shoot my pistol accurately but I'd never be able to hit anything if the target was at 200 yards and the pistol was a rifle with the same alignment error. I know it's misaligned (pistol) by looking at the sight's relationship to the rail and the rail's relationship to the receiver. That is something you can't see with a scope because the compensation for the misalignment is done internally in the erector mechanism, the scope's physical alignment never changes.... Which is why I say the chamber/receiver has to be fixtured (jigged) and aligned and the rail/base mounting holes need to be cherked for parallelism and trueness to the receiver/chamber centerline, not something you can do at home or an average gunsmith can do. That takes very specialized precision equipment and skill. Gun manufacturers already have that equipment as well as go and no go fixtures for checking alignment as it pertains to production firearms. Yours (and mine) somehow escaped that check, like I said previously, the human factor rears it's head. If it was me, in lieu of fiddling with it, I'd be calling Savage on Monday, explaining [B]exactly[/B] what is occuring and [B]ask[/B] their opinion or if they want the firearm returned directly or through an FFL. As I said before, the BATF registers the firearm based on the receiver so if the receiver has to be changed out, it will have to be re-registered. You need to consider another firearm for hunting this year......:) [/QUOTE]
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