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<blockquote data-quote="BrentM" data-source="post: 1521062" data-attributes="member: 61747"><p>I am currently building a light weight mountain rifle. It is sub 8 lbs scoped. This rifle is designed for long range wolf hunting so I am not suggesting this is an elk rifle but....</p><p></p><p>If you look at bullet design, sectional density of a particular bullet diameter, and look at required energy to efficiently do the job at your max range then pick your cartridge based off that info. The problem with the forums etc is that people have their favorite and promote it over a cartridge they likely have never owned. </p><p></p><p>For me it boils down to choices, short or long action, magnum or non. </p><p></p><p>When going lightweight a short action makes the most sense when counting ounces. For energy a magnum makes sense....so a short action magnum. I am not a huge fan or magnums so I tend to lean toward something like a 308 case that is Ackley improved. For elk I might be headed toward the 7-08AI. You might be able to run a 284 in a SA and seat the bullets deeper in the case but I haven't looked at the negatives there yet.</p><p></p><p>What I chose was a 6.5 creedmoor. My test shows a 147 at 2700fps which delivers 1500 ft lbs at 500 yards. At 1k it is 865 ft lbs which is more than enough for wolf. I would not use this rifle for long range elk.</p><p></p><p>Specs</p><p>Savage short action, trued, bolt flute, ptg head, other mods</p><p>Skeleton bolt handle</p><p>Savage internal box mag pillar bed stock. </p><p>Skeleton trigger guard</p><p>Talley rings</p><p>Proof research carbon barrel</p><p>Thunderbeast ultra 7 suppressor</p><p>Leupold Vx6 3-18x50 cds, MOA. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As a final note, I have a friend who is an outfitter and I guide for him occasionally. We have killed quite a few good bulls with 6.5 creeds and 140's out to 500. I have not seen a hunter use the 147 yet. I have killed 7 wolves with it, from 25 yards to 980. Works well for that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrentM, post: 1521062, member: 61747"] I am currently building a light weight mountain rifle. It is sub 8 lbs scoped. This rifle is designed for long range wolf hunting so I am not suggesting this is an elk rifle but.... If you look at bullet design, sectional density of a particular bullet diameter, and look at required energy to efficiently do the job at your max range then pick your cartridge based off that info. The problem with the forums etc is that people have their favorite and promote it over a cartridge they likely have never owned. For me it boils down to choices, short or long action, magnum or non. When going lightweight a short action makes the most sense when counting ounces. For energy a magnum makes sense....so a short action magnum. I am not a huge fan or magnums so I tend to lean toward something like a 308 case that is Ackley improved. For elk I might be headed toward the 7-08AI. You might be able to run a 284 in a SA and seat the bullets deeper in the case but I haven't looked at the negatives there yet. What I chose was a 6.5 creedmoor. My test shows a 147 at 2700fps which delivers 1500 ft lbs at 500 yards. At 1k it is 865 ft lbs which is more than enough for wolf. I would not use this rifle for long range elk. Specs Savage short action, trued, bolt flute, ptg head, other mods Skeleton bolt handle Savage internal box mag pillar bed stock. Skeleton trigger guard Talley rings Proof research carbon barrel Thunderbeast ultra 7 suppressor Leupold Vx6 3-18x50 cds, MOA. As a final note, I have a friend who is an outfitter and I guide for him occasionally. We have killed quite a few good bulls with 6.5 creeds and 140's out to 500. I have not seen a hunter use the 147 yet. I have killed 7 wolves with it, from 25 yards to 980. Works well for that. [/QUOTE]
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