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<blockquote data-quote="bigedp51" data-source="post: 1436497" data-attributes="member: 28965"><div style="margin-left: 20px">A standard factory shell holder has a deck height of .125, meaning from the top of the shell holder to where the base of the cases rests is .125.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">The five Redding competition shell holders are in .002 increments starting at the +.002 at .127 and working up to the +010 at .135.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">Meaning the five Redding competition shell holders will not push the case into the die as far as a standard shell holder. And are designed for "LESS" shoulder bump than a standard shell holder.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">In the video above he started with the +.010 (plus .010) shell holder which is .135 and worked down in size to the +.004 or .129. Meaning he pushed the case into the die .004 less than the standard .125 shell holder.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">You can do the same thing by placing a .010 feeler gauge on top of your standard .125 shell holder and adjusting the die to contact the feeler gauge. Then work down to .008 feeler gauge and smaller until the bolt closes without resistance.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/7FfXhJ7.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">Bottom line there are too many people giving out advice on the competition shell holders that do "NOT" know what they are talking about. If you want to bump your case shoulder back more with a standard shell holder you have two choices. 1. Lap the top of the shell holder that will allow the case to be pushed futher into the die, or 2. Machine a few thousandths off the bottom of the die for the same result as lapping the top of the shell holder</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">The Redding competition shell holders allows you to adjust your die for "LESS" shoulder bump and not have to touch the die.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">Below from the Whidden custom die website, and a example of what can happen when machining off the bottom of your die. And a shell holder is cheaper and any reloader can sand the top of his shell holder.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">WARNING</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">Failure to adhere with below warning could result in damaged and unsafe brass!</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">The Whidden Gunworks Sizer Die is engineered with a shorter overall length (OAL) compared to other manufactures of sizer dies. This means you can set the shoulder back further if desired based on your specific application. This die is not intended to be used while bottomed out or screwed flush with the shell plate. Doing so will result in the shoulder being set back too far, possibly rendering the casing unusable. During initial setup screw the die flush with the shell plate then back off 1-1 ½ turns, NOTE: Each full turn of the Sizer is approx. .071" so it does not have to be turned very far to make a noticeable adjustment. Instructions are included with each die set and can also be found at <a href="http://www.whiddengunworks.com-reloading-dies-instructions" target="_blank">www.whiddengunworks.com-reloading-dies-instructions</a>.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div> <div style="margin-left: 20px">NOTE, I'm 67 and have been reloading for over 47 years and have only once needed to lap the top of a shell holder. And the vast majority of resizing dies will push the case shoulder back more than needed if the die is adjusted per the instructions. And the Redding competition shell holders are designed for .002 to .010 "LESS" shoulder bump than a standard .125 shell holder.</div> <div style="margin-left: 20px"></div></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigedp51, post: 1436497, member: 28965"] [INDENT]A standard factory shell holder has a deck height of .125, meaning from the top of the shell holder to where the base of the cases rests is .125. The five Redding competition shell holders are in .002 increments starting at the +.002 at .127 and working up to the +010 at .135. Meaning the five Redding competition shell holders will not push the case into the die as far as a standard shell holder. And are designed for "LESS" shoulder bump than a standard shell holder. In the video above he started with the +.010 (plus .010) shell holder which is .135 and worked down in size to the +.004 or .129. Meaning he pushed the case into the die .004 less than the standard .125 shell holder. You can do the same thing by placing a .010 feeler gauge on top of your standard .125 shell holder and adjusting the die to contact the feeler gauge. Then work down to .008 feeler gauge and smaller until the bolt closes without resistance. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/7FfXhJ7.jpg[/IMG] Bottom line there are too many people giving out advice on the competition shell holders that do "NOT" know what they are talking about. If you want to bump your case shoulder back more with a standard shell holder you have two choices. 1. Lap the top of the shell holder that will allow the case to be pushed futher into the die, or 2. Machine a few thousandths off the bottom of the die for the same result as lapping the top of the shell holder The Redding competition shell holders allows you to adjust your die for "LESS" shoulder bump and not have to touch the die. Below from the Whidden custom die website, and a example of what can happen when machining off the bottom of your die. And a shell holder is cheaper and any reloader can sand the top of his shell holder. WARNING Failure to adhere with below warning could result in damaged and unsafe brass! The Whidden Gunworks Sizer Die is engineered with a shorter overall length (OAL) compared to other manufactures of sizer dies. This means you can set the shoulder back further if desired based on your specific application. This die is not intended to be used while bottomed out or screwed flush with the shell plate. Doing so will result in the shoulder being set back too far, possibly rendering the casing unusable. During initial setup screw the die flush with the shell plate then back off 1-1 ½ turns, NOTE: Each full turn of the Sizer is approx. .071” so it does not have to be turned very far to make a noticeable adjustment. Instructions are included with each die set and can also be found at [URL='http://www.whiddengunworks.com-reloading-dies-instructions']www.whiddengunworks.com-reloading-dies-instructions[/URL]. NOTE, I'm 67 and have been reloading for over 47 years and have only once needed to lap the top of a shell holder. And the vast majority of resizing dies will push the case shoulder back more than needed if the die is adjusted per the instructions. And the Redding competition shell holders are designed for .002 to .010 "LESS" shoulder bump than a standard .125 shell holder. [/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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