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Has the 30-06 died along with the .308 ???
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<blockquote data-quote="nicholasjohn" data-source="post: 1930463" data-attributes="member: 109113"><p>Tom,</p><p></p><p>I have hunted in southern Oregon for a couple of decades, but over on the west side where the blacktails live. Heavily forested there, too. A big one there is a full 100 pounds smaller than what you're describing, and I have shot a lot of them, mostly with the 30-06. I've also shot some big mulies elsewhere like your 300-pounders with the same rifle, and while it's un-necessarily powerful, it sure got the job done - near and far. A 243 or 257 would have been plenty of medicine for all of them, but I was so attached to my elk rifle that I used it for everything with hooves. </p><p></p><p>Most of the blacktails I shot with that rifle would have been just as handily shot with my old 30-30, and I did shoot a few with the muzzleloader - all at close range. One even met his maker about 30 yards off the end of my slug gun, which I have used to shoot dozens of Minnesota whitetails with. ( Some of those were Nimitz-class animals, like your mulies. We weighed two of them at a taxidermist's shop, and their field-dressed weights were in the mid-240's.) That particular buck was an unusually large specimen, and we all suspected that it was part mulie - what they call a bench-leg buck in that region. ( Its facial markings were pure blacktail, as was his tail. He didn't have mule deer ears, either, but he was really big and built like a pony.) He was shot on the edge of town, where he was busy chasing the does that were camped out between the houses adjacent to the pear orchards. </p><p></p><p>As for your dad's sporterized Springfield, I couldn't tell you how many of those passed though our old Pennsylvania hunting camp. He and his rifle would have fit right in there. So would you with your 32 Special. Lots of us used Winchester & Marlin lever-action 30-30's. Several guys carried 99 Savages - one in 303; the rest were 300 Savages. Most of the guys favored the heavier bullets for those cartridges, and we rarely shot further than 100 yards. Occasionally somebody would get a longer shot down a power line right-of-way, but mostly it was close shooting in heavy timber & brush. My old uncle had an Enfield '06, which was the first full-sized rifle I ever shot as a kid. It was so heavy that the recoil wasn't a problem, even for a skinny little 96-pounder like I was at the time. My current '06 is also pretty heavy - it's built on an Argentine Mauser action, and scales a bit over nine pounds field-ready. I have been using a Dakota single shot lately, since it is a couple of pounds lighter to carry. It's a 280, much like shooting a 30-06 with lighter bullets. Once I got used to the 30-06 trajectory, I've found it hard to switch and learn a new set of numbers. I guess I'm a little set in my ways, or maybe laziness is setting in as I grow older ………... </p><p></p><p>Nick</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nicholasjohn, post: 1930463, member: 109113"] Tom, I have hunted in southern Oregon for a couple of decades, but over on the west side where the blacktails live. Heavily forested there, too. A big one there is a full 100 pounds smaller than what you're describing, and I have shot a lot of them, mostly with the 30-06. I've also shot some big mulies elsewhere like your 300-pounders with the same rifle, and while it's un-necessarily powerful, it sure got the job done - near and far. A 243 or 257 would have been plenty of medicine for all of them, but I was so attached to my elk rifle that I used it for everything with hooves. Most of the blacktails I shot with that rifle would have been just as handily shot with my old 30-30, and I did shoot a few with the muzzleloader - all at close range. One even met his maker about 30 yards off the end of my slug gun, which I have used to shoot dozens of Minnesota whitetails with. ( Some of those were Nimitz-class animals, like your mulies. We weighed two of them at a taxidermist's shop, and their field-dressed weights were in the mid-240's.) That particular buck was an unusually large specimen, and we all suspected that it was part mulie - what they call a bench-leg buck in that region. ( Its facial markings were pure blacktail, as was his tail. He didn't have mule deer ears, either, but he was really big and built like a pony.) He was shot on the edge of town, where he was busy chasing the does that were camped out between the houses adjacent to the pear orchards. As for your dad's sporterized Springfield, I couldn't tell you how many of those passed though our old Pennsylvania hunting camp. He and his rifle would have fit right in there. So would you with your 32 Special. Lots of us used Winchester & Marlin lever-action 30-30's. Several guys carried 99 Savages - one in 303; the rest were 300 Savages. Most of the guys favored the heavier bullets for those cartridges, and we rarely shot further than 100 yards. Occasionally somebody would get a longer shot down a power line right-of-way, but mostly it was close shooting in heavy timber & brush. My old uncle had an Enfield '06, which was the first full-sized rifle I ever shot as a kid. It was so heavy that the recoil wasn't a problem, even for a skinny little 96-pounder like I was at the time. My current '06 is also pretty heavy - it's built on an Argentine Mauser action, and scales a bit over nine pounds field-ready. I have been using a Dakota single shot lately, since it is a couple of pounds lighter to carry. It's a 280, much like shooting a 30-06 with lighter bullets. Once I got used to the 30-06 trajectory, I've found it hard to switch and learn a new set of numbers. I guess I'm a little set in my ways, or maybe laziness is setting in as I grow older ………... Nick [/QUOTE]
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