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Has the 30-06 died along with the .308 ???
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<blockquote data-quote="DavidA" data-source="post: 1925309" data-attributes="member: 72334"><p>Never owned a 30 06 although I have a fondness for the 270 Win of which I have several. I own two 308 Wins both in LR308 configurations. These calibers are not dead. Everyone is obsessed with long range (500 yds plus) which is a good thing and yes for going long there are better calibers, but for most hunting out east where extreme shots are 200 to 300 yds these two calibers get it. Seems kind of funny to be talking about this on Long Range hunting where extreme long ranges 800 to 1,000 are considered long range and 400 yds is considered a poke. It just is what it is. For any sane intermediate e ranges these are great cartridges. I love either one of these. With the focus of the industries development to go longer and longer many of these American staple guns can't compete with the longer bullets because there twist rates are to slow. With the 1-11 twist I can shoot Berger 180 Elite Hunter out of my 1-11 twist 20" 308 gas gun at roughly 2,700 fps. Which will hold 1,800 fps out to approximately 645 yds at sea level. To me that is pretty far. As far as I would even consider shoot because of ballistics and definitely further than I feel comfortable shooting. As for the 270 win standard 270 win with a 24" 1-10 twist barrel, you can shoot a 150 Class Bullet say a Nosler ABLR to about 850 yds at sea level and maintain 1,800 fps minimum. To me that is long way. Not as long as some might like, but that is a long way. now if you go to a 26" barrel and do a 1-8 twist (which I have one) you can shoot a Berger 170 gr Elite hunter to almost 1,100 yds and maintain 1,800 fps. 30-06's with higher twist barrels shooting longer loads would not be far behind, but you have to re barrel to a higher twist rate barrel that stock 30 06 sammi specs. To allow you to shoot the longer heavier bullets. I would take a re-barrel 270 win or a 30 06 meaning to shoot the longer more BC efficient bullets and cal it a day. Brass and components everywhere. That is just me. Thought of Re-barreling the 308 win to take some longer high BC bullets but that would have to be from a bolt gun. Maybe a long action. Short is I love the 270 win and the 308. Might have a REMAGE 30 06 barrel made with a long throat and make that a long range rig as well. It is not hyper performance but you get 90% of the job done. But I am a caliber whore so I have 260 Rem, and 284 Win long actions to cover just about anything. Love to tinker and make it work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DavidA, post: 1925309, member: 72334"] Never owned a 30 06 although I have a fondness for the 270 Win of which I have several. I own two 308 Wins both in LR308 configurations. These calibers are not dead. Everyone is obsessed with long range (500 yds plus) which is a good thing and yes for going long there are better calibers, but for most hunting out east where extreme shots are 200 to 300 yds these two calibers get it. Seems kind of funny to be talking about this on Long Range hunting where extreme long ranges 800 to 1,000 are considered long range and 400 yds is considered a poke. It just is what it is. For any sane intermediate e ranges these are great cartridges. I love either one of these. With the focus of the industries development to go longer and longer many of these American staple guns can't compete with the longer bullets because there twist rates are to slow. With the 1-11 twist I can shoot Berger 180 Elite Hunter out of my 1-11 twist 20" 308 gas gun at roughly 2,700 fps. Which will hold 1,800 fps out to approximately 645 yds at sea level. To me that is pretty far. As far as I would even consider shoot because of ballistics and definitely further than I feel comfortable shooting. As for the 270 win standard 270 win with a 24" 1-10 twist barrel, you can shoot a 150 Class Bullet say a Nosler ABLR to about 850 yds at sea level and maintain 1,800 fps minimum. To me that is long way. Not as long as some might like, but that is a long way. now if you go to a 26" barrel and do a 1-8 twist (which I have one) you can shoot a Berger 170 gr Elite hunter to almost 1,100 yds and maintain 1,800 fps. 30-06's with higher twist barrels shooting longer loads would not be far behind, but you have to re barrel to a higher twist rate barrel that stock 30 06 sammi specs. To allow you to shoot the longer heavier bullets. I would take a re-barrel 270 win or a 30 06 meaning to shoot the longer more BC efficient bullets and cal it a day. Brass and components everywhere. That is just me. Thought of Re-barreling the 308 win to take some longer high BC bullets but that would have to be from a bolt gun. Maybe a long action. Short is I love the 270 win and the 308. Might have a REMAGE 30 06 barrel made with a long throat and make that a long range rig as well. It is not hyper performance but you get 90% of the job done. But I am a caliber whore so I have 260 Rem, and 284 Win long actions to cover just about anything. Love to tinker and make it work. [/QUOTE]
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