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Hammer hunter vs 215 berger
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 1699057" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>Fine, that's why there's other bullets, for us the Berger was such a step up from Barnes and Accubonds it was unbelievable!! </p><p>The question begs to be asked though why be surprised that a bullet doesn't penetrate an elk shoulder, I've seen it proven sooo many time with bullets like Barnes and Accubonds in big 300s that you simple will not see 100% of those bullets penetrate an elk shoulder, if I shot an elk through the shoulder with a 300 gr 338 bullet and it stopped I'd be upset, anything 30 cal and down I wouldn't be surprised. </p><p>I almost trust a 230 Berger in a big 30 cal to do it every time cause I've seen it work so many times, I've never had a Berger stopped on an elk shoulder BUT it would not surprise me that it happens some day because of how many I have seen of every other make. I've seen my 308 with 215s penetrate some serious feet of game and it sounds like the 200.20x is just as good.</p><p>I have seen a 7 mag with a 168 come close to issues but we quickly realized the throat was a gravel pit and switched it to 168 Targets and it's been a Slayer since. We see more issues with the 7 mag on elk than almost any thing, guys really think their shooting a heavy magnum and reality is their shooting a glorified 270, there is no bullet I would shoot an elk in the shoulder with that I would not be ready immediately with a second round and not be excited about it actually getting through. </p><p>When cutting large numbers of elk with broken and healed shoulders is amazing, or the top of the spine blown of and healed, it's the most common wounding we see drag themselves down to the field with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 1699057, member: 13632"] Fine, that's why there's other bullets, for us the Berger was such a step up from Barnes and Accubonds it was unbelievable!! The question begs to be asked though why be surprised that a bullet doesn't penetrate an elk shoulder, I've seen it proven sooo many time with bullets like Barnes and Accubonds in big 300s that you simple will not see 100% of those bullets penetrate an elk shoulder, if I shot an elk through the shoulder with a 300 gr 338 bullet and it stopped I'd be upset, anything 30 cal and down I wouldn't be surprised. I almost trust a 230 Berger in a big 30 cal to do it every time cause I've seen it work so many times, I've never had a Berger stopped on an elk shoulder BUT it would not surprise me that it happens some day because of how many I have seen of every other make. I've seen my 308 with 215s penetrate some serious feet of game and it sounds like the 200.20x is just as good. I have seen a 7 mag with a 168 come close to issues but we quickly realized the throat was a gravel pit and switched it to 168 Targets and it's been a Slayer since. We see more issues with the 7 mag on elk than almost any thing, guys really think their shooting a heavy magnum and reality is their shooting a glorified 270, there is no bullet I would shoot an elk in the shoulder with that I would not be ready immediately with a second round and not be excited about it actually getting through. When cutting large numbers of elk with broken and healed shoulders is amazing, or the top of the spine blown of and healed, it's the most common wounding we see drag themselves down to the field with. [/QUOTE]
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