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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 1181349" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>Exactly... And if the .25's were "dead", then why the hell does every manufacturer still offer multiple rifles in .25-06? And half of them offer them in .257 Wby... Some semi-custom manufacturers even offer the .257 Roberts chambering. I still hear and see tons of folks shooting the .25-06 down here in Alabama. Our deer don't get all that huge (weight and body mass), so the .25-06 is a very widely used cartridge here in the South...Right up there with a .270 Win and a .30-06 Sprg, which are considered to be "staple" deer hunting rounds down here. You walk into any deer camp, and I bet you'll see more of those 2 cartridges than anything else. The 7mmRM, .25-06, and .300WM are also very popular.</p><p></p><p>But people who don't like the .25's will find every reason to say the market is "dead" for them. It's very easy to disregard something that doesn't directly affect you...And that's just a fact of human nature. The fact is, it's only semi-dead because of a combination of rifle & barrel manufacturers not offering optimal twist rates, and bullet manufacturers not making the heavy high BC bullets when they were designing them for every other caliber... It's like they skipped-over the .257 and 8mm on purpose. And now that everything else has evolved, and the .257 and 8mm did not, it has caused a lack of popularity these days, comparatively.</p><p></p><p>With my .25-06 AI pushing nearly .257 Wby velocities in a 26" barrel, I would LOVE to slow it down some, and still be over 3,100+ with a 130-140gr Hybrid EOL bullet. I would bet with an optimal twist, the BC's of a 130-140gr .257 VLD/Hybrid type bullet would beat the 6.5 130-140 class bullets. Similar weight, but a smaller diameter and a sleeker profile would mean better BC.</p><p></p><p>Once again, nobody necessarily has to agree with it...Just my thoughts.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and my apologies Steve for helping getting your thread so far off-track. I wasn't trying to stir up a debate, I was just wanting to get your thoughts on something to know if it would be possible in the future.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 1181349, member: 12995"] Exactly... And if the .25's were "dead", then why the hell does every manufacturer still offer multiple rifles in .25-06? And half of them offer them in .257 Wby... Some semi-custom manufacturers even offer the .257 Roberts chambering. I still hear and see tons of folks shooting the .25-06 down here in Alabama. Our deer don't get all that huge (weight and body mass), so the .25-06 is a very widely used cartridge here in the South...Right up there with a .270 Win and a .30-06 Sprg, which are considered to be "staple" deer hunting rounds down here. You walk into any deer camp, and I bet you'll see more of those 2 cartridges than anything else. The 7mmRM, .25-06, and .300WM are also very popular. But people who don't like the .25's will find every reason to say the market is "dead" for them. It's very easy to disregard something that doesn't directly affect you...And that's just a fact of human nature. The fact is, it's only semi-dead because of a combination of rifle & barrel manufacturers not offering optimal twist rates, and bullet manufacturers not making the heavy high BC bullets when they were designing them for every other caliber... It's like they skipped-over the .257 and 8mm on purpose. And now that everything else has evolved, and the .257 and 8mm did not, it has caused a lack of popularity these days, comparatively. With my .25-06 AI pushing nearly .257 Wby velocities in a 26" barrel, I would LOVE to slow it down some, and still be over 3,100+ with a 130-140gr Hybrid EOL bullet. I would bet with an optimal twist, the BC's of a 130-140gr .257 VLD/Hybrid type bullet would beat the 6.5 130-140 class bullets. Similar weight, but a smaller diameter and a sleeker profile would mean better BC. Once again, nobody necessarily has to agree with it...Just my thoughts. Oh, and my apologies Steve for helping getting your thread so far off-track. I wasn't trying to stir up a debate, I was just wanting to get your thoughts on something to know if it would be possible in the future. [/QUOTE]
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