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<blockquote data-quote="codyadams" data-source="post: 2613600" data-attributes="member: 87243"><p>Yes, the cutting oil is a pretty standard thing with all hammers. If I recall correctly, I believe at one point Steve said they had attempted removing it prior to packaging, but after they did their own testing, they concluded the oil had no significant impact upon terminal performance or accuracy. </p><p></p><p>However, their benchmark for impact on accuracy likely was not consistent .2's or less, and actual consistent .2's or less like you are looking for. As in, 10 shots in .2's or less. Many people will say a 3 shot group under ideal conditions, with an occasional group that is up to .5", means they have a .2" rifle/load combo, but consistency of repition makes a big difference and is very challenging to achieve with standard reloading equipment and firearms. </p><p></p><p>And for the vast majority of people, admittedly myself included, a CONSISTENT .5 MOA rifle is very acceptable, so your benchmark is simply more than what is asked by the majority. So therefore, the possibility of the existence of cutting oil in bullets causing some fliers and opening groups up to half-ish MOA is hardly noticeable to the majority, as that is still withing their level of acceptance. Just like most people won't worry about doing a primer seating depth test, many people aren't very concerned with action/trigger timing of an action as long as it functions reliably, things like this. However, when chasing extreme accuracy and consistency as you are, every aspect comes into play and must be addressed properly and specifically. So, at that level, the oil may very well be the culprit. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I did this with my bullets after washing them with dish soap to remove any residue prior to HBN coating them, it worked very well, however was a one by one process. Orkan may have some contraption that does it more efficiently? I don't know ha ha.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="codyadams, post: 2613600, member: 87243"] Yes, the cutting oil is a pretty standard thing with all hammers. If I recall correctly, I believe at one point Steve said they had attempted removing it prior to packaging, but after they did their own testing, they concluded the oil had no significant impact upon terminal performance or accuracy. However, their benchmark for impact on accuracy likely was not consistent .2's or less, and actual consistent .2's or less like you are looking for. As in, 10 shots in .2's or less. Many people will say a 3 shot group under ideal conditions, with an occasional group that is up to .5", means they have a .2" rifle/load combo, but consistency of repition makes a big difference and is very challenging to achieve with standard reloading equipment and firearms. And for the vast majority of people, admittedly myself included, a CONSISTENT .5 MOA rifle is very acceptable, so your benchmark is simply more than what is asked by the majority. So therefore, the possibility of the existence of cutting oil in bullets causing some fliers and opening groups up to half-ish MOA is hardly noticeable to the majority, as that is still withing their level of acceptance. Just like most people won't worry about doing a primer seating depth test, many people aren't very concerned with action/trigger timing of an action as long as it functions reliably, things like this. However, when chasing extreme accuracy and consistency as you are, every aspect comes into play and must be addressed properly and specifically. So, at that level, the oil may very well be the culprit. I did this with my bullets after washing them with dish soap to remove any residue prior to HBN coating them, it worked very well, however was a one by one process. Orkan may have some contraption that does it more efficiently? I don't know ha ha. [/QUOTE]
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