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Gun build - Scope help PLEASE
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<blockquote data-quote="cabinfever" data-source="post: 493439" data-attributes="member: 14101"><p>I respectfully disagree. The 7mm is more than ample on elk out to 1000 yds. I personally think anything over 7mm is overkill on any animal you'll hunt in the lower 48. Never been a fan of the ultra mags for this very reason. Why deal with the recoil when it's not necessary. My idea of the perfect rifle is one that will maintain enough energy at a 1000 yds to kill up to elk size game, with the least amount of recoil. The 7mm is that kind of cartridge. For example, compare the ballistics of a 180 gr nosler accubond out of 300 wm vs a 180 berger vld out of a 7mm mag both with a muzzle velocity of 3000 fps. At a 1000 yds the 180 7mm still has a MV of 1725 fps whereas the 180 300 wm has a mv of 1431.7 fps. The 300 will drop 275 inches at a 1000 yds whereas the 7mm will only drop 234 inches. Heres the kicker: The 7mm 180 has 1189 lbs of energy at 1000 yds whereas the 300 wm 180 has only 819 lbs at 1000 yds. Don't get me wrong the 300 wm is a great cartridge and my current long range record kill is with a 180 nosler AB out of a 300, but the 7mm is the clear winner at a 1000 yds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cabinfever, post: 493439, member: 14101"] I respectfully disagree. The 7mm is more than ample on elk out to 1000 yds. I personally think anything over 7mm is overkill on any animal you'll hunt in the lower 48. Never been a fan of the ultra mags for this very reason. Why deal with the recoil when it's not necessary. My idea of the perfect rifle is one that will maintain enough energy at a 1000 yds to kill up to elk size game, with the least amount of recoil. The 7mm is that kind of cartridge. For example, compare the ballistics of a 180 gr nosler accubond out of 300 wm vs a 180 berger vld out of a 7mm mag both with a muzzle velocity of 3000 fps. At a 1000 yds the 180 7mm still has a MV of 1725 fps whereas the 180 300 wm has a mv of 1431.7 fps. The 300 will drop 275 inches at a 1000 yds whereas the 7mm will only drop 234 inches. Heres the kicker: The 7mm 180 has 1189 lbs of energy at 1000 yds whereas the 300 wm 180 has only 819 lbs at 1000 yds. Don't get me wrong the 300 wm is a great cartridge and my current long range record kill is with a 180 nosler AB out of a 300, but the 7mm is the clear winner at a 1000 yds. [/QUOTE]
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