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<blockquote data-quote="dashender7" data-source="post: 2323067" data-attributes="member: 120345"><p>Okay I caught up. Lots of things to consider, this is exactly why I came here - for great ideas from guys with more experience than me. Some things are great ideas but I may be able to eliminate because I didn't provide proper clarification or the right context in my original post.</p><p></p><p>Out of all of the responses this one from just before I went to make this post really intrigues me so I have to respond to it right away:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The reason is that Robert explains repeated experience - with Weatherby rifles in particular - across multiple rifles by that manufacturer it seems - exactly what I described experiencing with this Weatherby. That is: first 2 shots in a group starting from a cold bore on the 1st shot are nails together in almost same hole, then 3rd shot crazy flyer, then 4th shot back touching the first 2. Same specific sequence.</p><p></p><p>For me, this rifle shoots some decent groups repeatably under 1MOA at several charges and seating depths (and then also some poor rather scattered normal out-of-node groups at other charge and seating depth combinations), </p><p></p><p>But it is particularly and singularly when I get these otherwise tiny groups (I had the same thing happen at a way slower 2,600 fps node with H4350 before going to RL-26) that I see a single crazy flyer worse than anything else I shoot, where I feel confident I made a clean consistent shot. So the crazy flyer goes with the otherwise tiniest groups, and happens repeatedly specifically on the 3rd shot in a string when starting that string from a cold bore.</p><p></p><p>I promise I'm not crazy, and I don't have too much pride to still think it could just be me, but Robert seems to be confirming just what I'm saying (unless this is some kind of mis-timed April fool's joke Robert!)</p><p></p><p>That said, tons of other awesome advice here, more than I can possibly acknowledge but I'm taking notes on everything from trying carefully bumping powder up slightly or backing seating depth off 3 thousandths at a time to changing shooting platform to checking my technique against a different known rifle, to checking spec on action screws and finally maybe bedding issues (and more than that too!). Gonna sleep on it and hopefully get a chance to load up some more rounds and shoot tomorrow or Saturday to see what we can figure out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dashender7, post: 2323067, member: 120345"] Okay I caught up. Lots of things to consider, this is exactly why I came here - for great ideas from guys with more experience than me. Some things are great ideas but I may be able to eliminate because I didn't provide proper clarification or the right context in my original post. Out of all of the responses this one from just before I went to make this post really intrigues me so I have to respond to it right away: The reason is that Robert explains repeated experience - with Weatherby rifles in particular - across multiple rifles by that manufacturer it seems - exactly what I described experiencing with this Weatherby. That is: first 2 shots in a group starting from a cold bore on the 1st shot are nails together in almost same hole, then 3rd shot crazy flyer, then 4th shot back touching the first 2. Same specific sequence. For me, this rifle shoots some decent groups repeatably under 1MOA at several charges and seating depths (and then also some poor rather scattered normal out-of-node groups at other charge and seating depth combinations), But it is particularly and singularly when I get these otherwise tiny groups (I had the same thing happen at a way slower 2,600 fps node with H4350 before going to RL-26) that I see a single crazy flyer worse than anything else I shoot, where I feel confident I made a clean consistent shot. So the crazy flyer goes with the otherwise tiniest groups, and happens repeatedly specifically on the 3rd shot in a string when starting that string from a cold bore. I promise I'm not crazy, and I don't have too much pride to still think it could just be me, but Robert seems to be confirming just what I'm saying (unless this is some kind of mis-timed April fool's joke Robert!) That said, tons of other awesome advice here, more than I can possibly acknowledge but I'm taking notes on everything from trying carefully bumping powder up slightly or backing seating depth off 3 thousandths at a time to changing shooting platform to checking my technique against a different known rifle, to checking spec on action screws and finally maybe bedding issues (and more than that too!). Gonna sleep on it and hopefully get a chance to load up some more rounds and shoot tomorrow or Saturday to see what we can figure out. [/QUOTE]
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