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Grizzly G4003G Gunsmith’s Lathe Part 1
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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 820490" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>I need to add to "Flips" previous post. The Senior Vice Presidents of Engineering and manufacturing at Warner Swasey left the company in the very late 1970's. The started a little company called Bardens & Oliver, and their first lathe was a dupicate of the W&S #5 turret lathe. There was a huge market for that particular model at the time, folks that owned them kept them up. Turns out that all the patterns and such were right from W&S. They're built over here. Later these guys get the same deal for the much sought after W&S chuckers and the CNC chuckers. We bought five or six of them, and placed them right beside the W&S #2AS cnc chuckers. Same quality and finish.</p><p> </p><p>Monarch Sidney was bought up by Makino years back. They were the Cadillac of engine lathes when they sold out. I think Monarch Cortland is still the old company (last time I heard), but all the made was vertical machine centers.. Sidney did a horizontal machine center that was surprisingly accurate. But also not with out issues. Still a better machine than it's Jap counterparts by a mile or two.</p><p> </p><p>I think G&L still has a line of CNC lathes (all slant bed), and at one time did make an engine lathe. Their big thing is machine centers and FMS systems. What put them over the top was when they bought up K&T. K&T was the top dog in the world of FMS systems by a wide margin. But also had a lot of cash flow issues. </p><p> </p><p>In the world of machine centers the best was a Devlieg out of Michigan. Sip also did one that was claimed to be about .0002" more accurate in two feet of travel. A lie! People that own Devliegs hang onto them, and keep them up. They are a legitimate two tenths machine on a bad day!</p><p> </p><p>Probably the only good stuff comming out of Japan these days is Okuma and Okamoto. The rest is suspect and has cost more than one man his job for even buying it. Mitsubishi makes a fairly good gear grinder, but nothing like an Okamoto or a MAAG. Gleason has literally killed off the rest of the business in gear cutting. Nothing will run with a Gleason period!</p><p> </p><p>Now for the $64K answer! The best CNC lathe made anywhere is a Hardingh. Always back ordered for a reason. It's a solid five tenths or less machine, and I've seen the smaller versions run in the two and a half tenth range all day long. The others won't come close to that. Plus it'll stay together with a feed rate of 24" a minute if your brave enough! Lodge was the last one to make that claim.</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 820490, member: 25383"] I need to add to "Flips" previous post. The Senior Vice Presidents of Engineering and manufacturing at Warner Swasey left the company in the very late 1970's. The started a little company called Bardens & Oliver, and their first lathe was a dupicate of the W&S #5 turret lathe. There was a huge market for that particular model at the time, folks that owned them kept them up. Turns out that all the patterns and such were right from W&S. They're built over here. Later these guys get the same deal for the much sought after W&S chuckers and the CNC chuckers. We bought five or six of them, and placed them right beside the W&S #2AS cnc chuckers. Same quality and finish. Monarch Sidney was bought up by Makino years back. They were the Cadillac of engine lathes when they sold out. I think Monarch Cortland is still the old company (last time I heard), but all the made was vertical machine centers.. Sidney did a horizontal machine center that was surprisingly accurate. But also not with out issues. Still a better machine than it's Jap counterparts by a mile or two. I think G&L still has a line of CNC lathes (all slant bed), and at one time did make an engine lathe. Their big thing is machine centers and FMS systems. What put them over the top was when they bought up K&T. K&T was the top dog in the world of FMS systems by a wide margin. But also had a lot of cash flow issues. In the world of machine centers the best was a Devlieg out of Michigan. Sip also did one that was claimed to be about .0002" more accurate in two feet of travel. A lie! People that own Devliegs hang onto them, and keep them up. They are a legitimate two tenths machine on a bad day! Probably the only good stuff comming out of Japan these days is Okuma and Okamoto. The rest is suspect and has cost more than one man his job for even buying it. Mitsubishi makes a fairly good gear grinder, but nothing like an Okamoto or a MAAG. Gleason has literally killed off the rest of the business in gear cutting. Nothing will run with a Gleason period! Now for the $64K answer! The best CNC lathe made anywhere is a Hardingh. Always back ordered for a reason. It's a solid five tenths or less machine, and I've seen the smaller versions run in the two and a half tenth range all day long. The others won't come close to that. Plus it'll stay together with a feed rate of 24" a minute if your brave enough! Lodge was the last one to make that claim. gary [/QUOTE]
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