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<blockquote data-quote="boomtube" data-source="post: 219072" data-attributes="member: 9215"><p>After some 40+ years of reloading with many different die brands, calibers and threaded presses I have formed some definite opinions: Mostly, excepting the occasional but rare defect from any maker, it doesn't matter who made the press or dies or what model they are, the limiting factor is the loader himself and his work methods. In general, no one makes a bad press, no one makes bad dies, so get what you like and enjoy it. </p><p> </p><p>All that said, I prefer to USE certian tools because of specfic design features. I like Lyman or Redding dies for pistol because of their expander design that works very well. I prefer Forster or Redding BR/Competion dies for rifle because of the sliding chamber they use. I prefer the Foster CoAx press because it DOESN'T have threads and only it allows the die to be mounted loosely so they can better align with the cases. But, none of it makes much difference at the target, given care in use they all do good.</p><p> </p><p>The "advantage" of quick-change die inserts gimmicks, aka LnL, are unclear to me. I can swap screw-in dies in a few seconds, cutting that in half, or even quartered, it still doesn't mean anything in an hour or two long loading session. A properly set lock-ring does everything an insert does for repeatability, so ....?</p><p> </p><p>IF I was going to use a turret (and I don't, they really don't add a thing to the process) it would be a Lee Classic Turret because of it's mass and method of support for the turret itself. In my OPINION, loading the volumes you suggest don't warrant the hassle of learning to set up and use a progressive.</p><p> </p><p>If you like shiney stuff expect to pay for it but it isn't likely to produce any better groups than any other stuff. On average, there is more difference between dies of the same maker than there is between makers. The chances of an ideal match between any given die and rifle is more of a crap shoot than the advocates of certain brands would have you believe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boomtube, post: 219072, member: 9215"] After some 40+ years of reloading with many different die brands, calibers and threaded presses I have formed some definite opinions: Mostly, excepting the occasional but rare defect from any maker, it doesn't matter who made the press or dies or what model they are, the limiting factor is the loader himself and his work methods. In general, no one makes a bad press, no one makes bad dies, so get what you like and enjoy it. All that said, I prefer to USE certian tools because of specfic design features. I like Lyman or Redding dies for pistol because of their expander design that works very well. I prefer Forster or Redding BR/Competion dies for rifle because of the sliding chamber they use. I prefer the Foster CoAx press because it DOESN'T have threads and only it allows the die to be mounted loosely so they can better align with the cases. But, none of it makes much difference at the target, given care in use they all do good. The "advantage" of quick-change die inserts gimmicks, aka LnL, are unclear to me. I can swap screw-in dies in a few seconds, cutting that in half, or even quartered, it still doesn't mean anything in an hour or two long loading session. A properly set lock-ring does everything an insert does for repeatability, so ....? IF I was going to use a turret (and I don't, they really don't add a thing to the process) it would be a Lee Classic Turret because of it's mass and method of support for the turret itself. In my OPINION, loading the volumes you suggest don't warrant the hassle of learning to set up and use a progressive. If you like shiney stuff expect to pay for it but it isn't likely to produce any better groups than any other stuff. On average, there is more difference between dies of the same maker than there is between makers. The chances of an ideal match between any given die and rifle is more of a crap shoot than the advocates of certain brands would have you believe. [/QUOTE]
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