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Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment
AR15/10 Rifles
Full size, neck size, or small base dies for 223 Rem?
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<blockquote data-quote="budlight" data-source="post: 2305799" data-attributes="member: 2939"><p>I bought RCBS small base dies when I first started doing 223 about 20 years ago. RCBS had some quality assurance issues. I bought and picked up about a 1000 once fired brass and went to town on my Dillion 550 multi stage. Only to find out that NONE of them would work in my AR's. They actually jammed the BCG and it was difficult to open. So I bought the 223 RCBS matchmaster grade dies and it was the same thing. I was on the phone with the tech guys and of course they KNOW that you are doing something wrong. So I bought the Dillion case checker and every resized case stuck up a few thousands. </p><p></p><p>I sent RCBS close up pictures and of course it must be my rock chucker single stage and Dillion poor loading technics. Now with more than a 1000 rounds that don't go into any bodies gun I started thinking after measuring everything with calibrated micrometers.</p><p></p><p>Why is the case to long in the case gauge? I'm around shop equipment like lathes. So why not take 3 thousands of the top of the 223 base case holder? So I did it and the bullets fit right in. The shoulder was not being set back far enough causing jams. So I called RCBS and they wanted my machined case holder that worked. I shipped it to them along with 2 bad ones. Sure enough they finally admitted that they had 1000 upon 1000's of too tall of 223 case holders that were made wrong. </p><p></p><p>So as a gift they gave me a $500 RCBS gift card. Then I started pulling more than a 1000 bullets with the RCBS collet dies for single stages like the rock crusher</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="budlight, post: 2305799, member: 2939"] I bought RCBS small base dies when I first started doing 223 about 20 years ago. RCBS had some quality assurance issues. I bought and picked up about a 1000 once fired brass and went to town on my Dillion 550 multi stage. Only to find out that NONE of them would work in my AR's. They actually jammed the BCG and it was difficult to open. So I bought the 223 RCBS matchmaster grade dies and it was the same thing. I was on the phone with the tech guys and of course they KNOW that you are doing something wrong. So I bought the Dillion case checker and every resized case stuck up a few thousands. I sent RCBS close up pictures and of course it must be my rock chucker single stage and Dillion poor loading technics. Now with more than a 1000 rounds that don't go into any bodies gun I started thinking after measuring everything with calibrated micrometers. Why is the case to long in the case gauge? I'm around shop equipment like lathes. So why not take 3 thousands of the top of the 223 base case holder? So I did it and the bullets fit right in. The shoulder was not being set back far enough causing jams. So I called RCBS and they wanted my machined case holder that worked. I shipped it to them along with 2 bad ones. Sure enough they finally admitted that they had 1000 upon 1000's of too tall of 223 case holders that were made wrong. So as a gift they gave me a $500 RCBS gift card. Then I started pulling more than a 1000 bullets with the RCBS collet dies for single stages like the rock crusher [/QUOTE]
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