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Frustrated with copper fouling.
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<blockquote data-quote="Broz" data-source="post: 899785" data-attributes="member: 7503"><p>That is not Boretech. There is no ammonia or smell with boretech. I have been reading along and you have been getting good advice so I had nothing to add. But I will offer a theory I have. If you take the time to do a complete clean with eliminator. And it will take time and many patched as you watch copper compe out for a long time. Then the barrel where you can leave the bore wet for 10 minutes and follow with 2 or 3 more patches wet with eliminator you will have cleaned all the copper from your bore. There has been different bullets through this rifle between cleanings. This can make for a tough clean as the different alloys bond together. But after a full cleaning I would hope you will expose the rough areas by removing the copper they have grabbed and the next bullets will be allowed to work to smooth these areas up. I too would go back to a semi break in procedure. Shoot 3 to 5 and clean for about 5 groups. This will take some time but hopefully you will notice that the rifle is starting to hold less copper as you go along which is what we are after. Also know that the first cleaning with Boretech Eliminator (BTE)will be the worst. If you have not used it yet I feel you have never gotten all the copper out. Si in fact the rifle was never cleaned completely. But after the first cleaning with BTE it will be easier each time until you get the bore smoothed. My fully seasoned rifle clean in less than 12 patches after 60 to 100 shots fired.</p><p> </p><p>I will also offer for now that you find the favorite bullet and stick with it. I would avoid mixing copper alloys in this rifle for now.</p><p> </p><p>Also I would avoid solid copper bullets in this rifle. They have proven for me to foul the bore faster especially in rifles with rough bores or where higher velocity rounds are used.</p><p> </p><p>If this does not help, I would be looking at using the Tubbs final finish kit. If that does not get it then I feel a new barrel will be the only cure.</p><p> </p><p>Jeff</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Broz, post: 899785, member: 7503"] That is not Boretech. There is no ammonia or smell with boretech. I have been reading along and you have been getting good advice so I had nothing to add. But I will offer a theory I have. If you take the time to do a complete clean with eliminator. And it will take time and many patched as you watch copper compe out for a long time. Then the barrel where you can leave the bore wet for 10 minutes and follow with 2 or 3 more patches wet with eliminator you will have cleaned all the copper from your bore. There has been different bullets through this rifle between cleanings. This can make for a tough clean as the different alloys bond together. But after a full cleaning I would hope you will expose the rough areas by removing the copper they have grabbed and the next bullets will be allowed to work to smooth these areas up. I too would go back to a semi break in procedure. Shoot 3 to 5 and clean for about 5 groups. This will take some time but hopefully you will notice that the rifle is starting to hold less copper as you go along which is what we are after. Also know that the first cleaning with Boretech Eliminator (BTE)will be the worst. If you have not used it yet I feel you have never gotten all the copper out. Si in fact the rifle was never cleaned completely. But after the first cleaning with BTE it will be easier each time until you get the bore smoothed. My fully seasoned rifle clean in less than 12 patches after 60 to 100 shots fired. I will also offer for now that you find the favorite bullet and stick with it. I would avoid mixing copper alloys in this rifle for now. Also I would avoid solid copper bullets in this rifle. They have proven for me to foul the bore faster especially in rifles with rough bores or where higher velocity rounds are used. If this does not help, I would be looking at using the Tubbs final finish kit. If that does not get it then I feel a new barrel will be the only cure. Jeff [/QUOTE]
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