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<blockquote data-quote="royinidaho" data-source="post: 545415" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Stu,</p><p></p><p>Yep, you're spot on.</p><p></p><p>Shortgrass,</p><p></p><p>Too funny. You definitely don't know me very well! Me and expensive aren't compatible. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> Being a nuub with ziltch machining background, knowledge or skills how was I supposed to know there was a gizmo such as a gizmo. If I wouldn't have seen the name in this context I would have tho't that a Brown & Sharps single spindle automatic was some kind of a weapon.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>I now know more about Brown and Sharpe than I need to: </p><p><a href="http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Brown-amp;-Sharpe-Manufacturing-Co-Company-History.html" target="_blank">Brown & Sharpe Manufacturing Co. -- Company History</a></p><p></p><p>Thanks for the pointer. This is just another reason I hang around this place.</p><p></p><p>I can only imagine that the first fella that simply wanted a bunch of "holes" had to first have the need, then had to invent or innovate a "bit" of some sort that didn't work very well then continue until he had a rotary bit then something to turn it. Thus the brace and bit. Wanting more holes faster the drill motor was developed. For more accuracy along came the drill press and on and on and all. Hell, all that was wanted was a hole!</p><p></p><p>Now I'm gonna have to learn how to select a decent Brown & Sharps single spindle automatic gizmo. There is one in Edmonton Alberta. The prices are well under what a single run on a Citizen costs by an order of magnitude. (100,000*.15 = 15,000 smackeroos!)</p><p></p><p>My approach for the prototype process is simple, inexpensive (fairly), and way out of the box. Harbor Freight bench lathe - trued chuck to zero run out or as close as humanly possible (ruined sever jaws learning how to do this), LEGOs Mindstorms brick and motors, any materials scrounged around the apartment building that looked like it could me made to work, several trips to Ace Hardware for odds and ends. I've been able to "program" to compensate for the weakness of the inexpensive (cheap) equipment I'm using. Can hold tolerances under what my 29 buck digital calipers can measure. When I 'mike' them they are 'close enough' for me.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> until testing shows greater consistency is necessary.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully nearing production. Will know better when tester results come in. I can't shoot until next spring when I'll run these things through the 270 AM which turns out to be one hell of a stress test for bullets.</p><p></p><p>Thanks again for the heads up on the B&S machine. If you know of any lemme know. Have truck will travel.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="royinidaho, post: 545415, member: 2011"] Stu, Yep, you're spot on. Shortgrass, Too funny. You definitely don't know me very well! Me and expensive aren't compatible. :D Being a nuub with ziltch machining background, knowledge or skills how was I supposed to know there was a gizmo such as a gizmo. If I wouldn't have seen the name in this context I would have tho't that a Brown & Sharps single spindle automatic was some kind of a weapon.:rolleyes: I now know more about Brown and Sharpe than I need to: [url=http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Brown-amp;-Sharpe-Manufacturing-Co-Company-History.html]Brown & Sharpe Manufacturing Co. -- Company History[/url] Thanks for the pointer. This is just another reason I hang around this place. I can only imagine that the first fella that simply wanted a bunch of "holes" had to first have the need, then had to invent or innovate a "bit" of some sort that didn't work very well then continue until he had a rotary bit then something to turn it. Thus the brace and bit. Wanting more holes faster the drill motor was developed. For more accuracy along came the drill press and on and on and all. Hell, all that was wanted was a hole! Now I'm gonna have to learn how to select a decent Brown & Sharps single spindle automatic gizmo. There is one in Edmonton Alberta. The prices are well under what a single run on a Citizen costs by an order of magnitude. (100,000*.15 = 15,000 smackeroos!) My approach for the prototype process is simple, inexpensive (fairly), and way out of the box. Harbor Freight bench lathe - trued chuck to zero run out or as close as humanly possible (ruined sever jaws learning how to do this), LEGOs Mindstorms brick and motors, any materials scrounged around the apartment building that looked like it could me made to work, several trips to Ace Hardware for odds and ends. I've been able to "program" to compensate for the weakness of the inexpensive (cheap) equipment I'm using. Can hold tolerances under what my 29 buck digital calipers can measure. When I 'mike' them they are 'close enough' for me.:rolleyes: until testing shows greater consistency is necessary. Hopefully nearing production. Will know better when tester results come in. I can't shoot until next spring when I'll run these things through the 270 AM which turns out to be one hell of a stress test for bullets. Thanks again for the heads up on the B&S machine. If you know of any lemme know. Have truck will travel.:) [/QUOTE]
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