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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 853879" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>I tend to call a spade when I see a spade, and some folks can't stand that. That's who I am. I'd like to have back some of the hard earned dollars I've wasted of state of the art equipment over the years, but we learn from our mistakes as well. Fred Sinclair and Ferris Pindell helped me a lot thru the years, and you could toss in Joe Barnes and a little info here and there from Jim Borden ( Joe put me in contact with Jim almost twenty years ago). Then another guy that folks love to hate on this board took me into another direction. </p><p> </p><p>That little Lyman measurer is the perfect unit to get your hands wet with. Look for a good U.S. made one (painted orange), and add the Sinclair bottle adapter. None throw course powder well anyway, so why spend all the extra money! Plus it's usually about 33% cheaper! I simply not found a better trimmer than a Wilson, and trust be I've been thru too many. The die lock ring advice came from a little bit of experimenting and fooling around. The case gauge is not perfect, but as good as you can readily buy off the shelf. My home brew one is slightly more accurate using the same indicators. (I didn't tell you about most indicators not being good enough to work at less than .001" did I?).</p><p> </p><p>Many years ago the local gun shop set a press up to demonstrate the new line of Redding dies. The spill was that they were more accurate. They had an RCBS or a Redding press setup with a few hundred cases in 30-06. Guys were raving about them, and I was buy primers, so I wasn't interested. After about ten minutes of ragging I went home and brought back a new Hornaday set and a Forster set. The Hornaday set were just about as good as the Reddings at full length sizing (better than I was seeing at the house!). But the finished product was clearly in the Redding's favor (at twice the price of course). Guys laughed at me about bring them, so I went back out to the truck and brought in a set of Forster Co-Ax dies. They full length sized a few tenths more accurately, and ended up being better at seating bullets at 2/3rds the price. So I then went back out to the Blazer and brought in my range box, and got out my home brew case gauge using two Interrapid dial indicators. We checked the cases all over again, and then looked over the loaded ammo. Big difference, and the sales guy got tee'd off big time. I then sized several .222 Remington cases with my arbor press and a Pindell built bushing die. Cases showed about .0005" TIR, and the loaded rounds were in the .0008" range (.241" necks with 52 grain Sierra bullets over BLC2 powder). The regular press with Forster dies did rounds in the .0015" range. I was persona non grata after that. A couple days later the shop owner called me to thank me as he was sick of listening to all the crap. Told him I should have brought my press with me to end all the arguments!</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 853879, member: 25383"] I tend to call a spade when I see a spade, and some folks can't stand that. That's who I am. I'd like to have back some of the hard earned dollars I've wasted of state of the art equipment over the years, but we learn from our mistakes as well. Fred Sinclair and Ferris Pindell helped me a lot thru the years, and you could toss in Joe Barnes and a little info here and there from Jim Borden ( Joe put me in contact with Jim almost twenty years ago). Then another guy that folks love to hate on this board took me into another direction. That little Lyman measurer is the perfect unit to get your hands wet with. Look for a good U.S. made one (painted orange), and add the Sinclair bottle adapter. None throw course powder well anyway, so why spend all the extra money! Plus it's usually about 33% cheaper! I simply not found a better trimmer than a Wilson, and trust be I've been thru too many. The die lock ring advice came from a little bit of experimenting and fooling around. The case gauge is not perfect, but as good as you can readily buy off the shelf. My home brew one is slightly more accurate using the same indicators. (I didn't tell you about most indicators not being good enough to work at less than .001" did I?). Many years ago the local gun shop set a press up to demonstrate the new line of Redding dies. The spill was that they were more accurate. They had an RCBS or a Redding press setup with a few hundred cases in 30-06. Guys were raving about them, and I was buy primers, so I wasn't interested. After about ten minutes of ragging I went home and brought back a new Hornaday set and a Forster set. The Hornaday set were just about as good as the Reddings at full length sizing (better than I was seeing at the house!). But the finished product was clearly in the Redding's favor (at twice the price of course). Guys laughed at me about bring them, so I went back out to the truck and brought in a set of Forster Co-Ax dies. They full length sized a few tenths more accurately, and ended up being better at seating bullets at 2/3rds the price. So I then went back out to the Blazer and brought in my range box, and got out my home brew case gauge using two Interrapid dial indicators. We checked the cases all over again, and then looked over the loaded ammo. Big difference, and the sales guy got tee'd off big time. I then sized several .222 Remington cases with my arbor press and a Pindell built bushing die. Cases showed about .0005" TIR, and the loaded rounds were in the .0008" range (.241" necks with 52 grain Sierra bullets over BLC2 powder). The regular press with Forster dies did rounds in the .0015" range. I was persona non grata after that. A couple days later the shop owner called me to thank me as he was sick of listening to all the crap. Told him I should have brought my press with me to end all the arguments! gary [/QUOTE]
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