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<blockquote data-quote="mrbb" data-source="post: 2606172" data-attributes="member: 11837"><p>well I will write this, and throw a bunch of info out there to be taken as you wish!</p><p>as I have been a long time food plotter and farmer with a few decades of experience planting things! I have a lot of experience and learned a lot of things the hard way! to help save some from making mistakes they can avoid ! I have farmed for commercial side of things as well as a hobby!</p><p>I was also one of whitetail institutes first tester in PA< and worked with them many times over the yrs!</p><p>so, I have a LOT of food plot experience! and always glad to help others if I can~</p><p></p><p>SO??</p><p></p><p> first off a lot comes down to where your at as to what to plant, and when to plant it, every location and soil type can be different as to what grows well and when it can be planted!</p><p></p><p></p><p> but as for using round up, after about 24 hours the chemical has reached the plants roots, </p><p> what ever the chemical your using(round up or likes), they work by the PLANT absorbing the chemical, and it then goes into it roots!</p><p>it normally is in there roots within about a 24 hr period</p><p></p><p>BUT< NEW things can be growing you DIDN"T spray </p><p> that were just below the surface or protected by cover from other things!</p><p>so, some times you NEVER get a complete burn down even using round up!</p><p></p><p>SO< things to consider, any time the round up(or like chemical's are used) ) once the chemical is DRY< you can actually seed without it harming your seed, as again it only works when it makes contact with a plant that can absorb the chemical!</p><p> so once the round up or likes is DRY on the surface of all things, , seeds can be dropped without harming them!</p><p></p><p>NOW< m,any food plotters will tend to wait a week or more to MAKE sure they got a full burn down on the site, as its rather easy to miss things and or again have some things pop back up after spraying that were protected by other plants or just grew afterwards, there are always seeds in the soil!</p><p> </p><p>NEXT?</p><p> when your making a food plot, you have to think about things , are you going to do a NO till like seeding using NO till equipment</p><p>OR??</p><p> are you actually going to plant things, be it means of a NO till seeding type, meaning you going actually going to turn the soil over to expose dirt </p><p>so you can then seed and then pack seeds in(like with a cultipacker or likes) </p><p>or do you plan to just seed and HOPE</p><p> for a seed to grow it HAS to have contact with soil, which is why using a packer of some sort is so common, or no tilling things!</p><p> YEST just tossing seeds CAN work, but packing tends to get better results!</p><p></p><p> SO<</p><p> if you say use round up</p><p> wait to make sure site is DEAD, then plan to DISC the site to expose soil and get a LESS compacted seed bed!</p><p> in the time you WAITED till time you turned soil over, THINGS can grow, actually just turning soil over, your RE seeding things with the natural seeds in the soil that have been there, and now got turned up to where sun can start them to grow(photosynthesis process this is called) </p><p> </p><p>SO< what MANY food plotters do, to try and curb weeds and unwanted seeds in there plots is</p><p> they 1) use round up or likes to kill /burn down the site</p><p>2) once dead/burned down, they disc site</p><p>3.) after disc-ing the site, they WAIT a week or two, and then RE spray again with round up, , doing this then kills all the new unwanted seeds that were bought up from disc-ing the soil</p><p>4.) then a few days later will SEED the plot site with there wanted seeds of choice!, which then give things the BEST chance to grow without competition from other un wanted plants!</p><p></p><p>SO< IF you want the best chance if your plot growing with what your seeding it with, to get the best suggestion, I"d need to know what method of planting your using</p><p> NO TILL< disc'ing a site? or throw and hope method?</p><p></p><p>and I will also add I did NOT mention having soil tested for what you want to plant, as if the soil isn;t able to sustain your planting, your sort of wasting your time and money!</p><p> so best advice is start with a soil test, before buying seed or even doing any work!</p><p></p><p>SO< if you tell me what method of planting your doing, I will gladly give you more info on how to plant using it for best results!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mrbb, post: 2606172, member: 11837"] well I will write this, and throw a bunch of info out there to be taken as you wish! as I have been a long time food plotter and farmer with a few decades of experience planting things! I have a lot of experience and learned a lot of things the hard way! to help save some from making mistakes they can avoid ! I have farmed for commercial side of things as well as a hobby! I was also one of whitetail institutes first tester in PA< and worked with them many times over the yrs! so, I have a LOT of food plot experience! and always glad to help others if I can~ SO?? first off a lot comes down to where your at as to what to plant, and when to plant it, every location and soil type can be different as to what grows well and when it can be planted! but as for using round up, after about 24 hours the chemical has reached the plants roots, what ever the chemical your using(round up or likes), they work by the PLANT absorbing the chemical, and it then goes into it roots! it normally is in there roots within about a 24 hr period BUT< NEW things can be growing you DIDN"T spray that were just below the surface or protected by cover from other things! so, some times you NEVER get a complete burn down even using round up! SO< things to consider, any time the round up(or like chemical's are used) ) once the chemical is DRY< you can actually seed without it harming your seed, as again it only works when it makes contact with a plant that can absorb the chemical! so once the round up or likes is DRY on the surface of all things, , seeds can be dropped without harming them! NOW< m,any food plotters will tend to wait a week or more to MAKE sure they got a full burn down on the site, as its rather easy to miss things and or again have some things pop back up after spraying that were protected by other plants or just grew afterwards, there are always seeds in the soil! NEXT? when your making a food plot, you have to think about things , are you going to do a NO till like seeding using NO till equipment OR?? are you actually going to plant things, be it means of a NO till seeding type, meaning you going actually going to turn the soil over to expose dirt so you can then seed and then pack seeds in(like with a cultipacker or likes) or do you plan to just seed and HOPE for a seed to grow it HAS to have contact with soil, which is why using a packer of some sort is so common, or no tilling things! YEST just tossing seeds CAN work, but packing tends to get better results! SO< if you say use round up wait to make sure site is DEAD, then plan to DISC the site to expose soil and get a LESS compacted seed bed! in the time you WAITED till time you turned soil over, THINGS can grow, actually just turning soil over, your RE seeding things with the natural seeds in the soil that have been there, and now got turned up to where sun can start them to grow(photosynthesis process this is called) SO< what MANY food plotters do, to try and curb weeds and unwanted seeds in there plots is they 1) use round up or likes to kill /burn down the site 2) once dead/burned down, they disc site 3.) after disc-ing the site, they WAIT a week or two, and then RE spray again with round up, , doing this then kills all the new unwanted seeds that were bought up from disc-ing the soil 4.) then a few days later will SEED the plot site with there wanted seeds of choice!, which then give things the BEST chance to grow without competition from other un wanted plants! SO< IF you want the best chance if your plot growing with what your seeding it with, to get the best suggestion, I"d need to know what method of planting your using NO TILL< disc'ing a site? or throw and hope method? and I will also add I did NOT mention having soil tested for what you want to plant, as if the soil isn;t able to sustain your planting, your sort of wasting your time and money! so best advice is start with a soil test, before buying seed or even doing any work! SO< if you tell me what method of planting your doing, I will gladly give you more info on how to plant using it for best results! [/QUOTE]
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