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First elk hunt. Leaning toward Tikka
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<blockquote data-quote="Wolf76" data-source="post: 1930329" data-attributes="member: 75779"><p>I understand your perspective. I think many would call the calibers you referenced super magnums. Things that require on oversized bolt, action, BF, uncommon parts, etc.</p><p>Given the standard action cartridges 308, 06, 6.5 CM, 270, etc - most people accept magnums to be 300 wm, 7mm, 300 PRC, 338 wm - with the upper end being 338 Lapua/edge.</p><p>Jumping into the cheytac, bmg, and dangerous game rifles is a different arena. The first 2 are discussed often in the ELR forum and not nearly as often in the long range forum. Also note this group of guns is often far heavier and less practical than most hunting rifles.</p><p>You could make a feasible argument that magnums start with 70grs of powder. But that's a another discussion.</p><p>Since the OP is talking elk, Broz has noted in many forums that the 7mm has not been as effective as the 300, despite what the paper ballistics suggests. He is well respected and can't explain 'why' there is a noticeable difference. I don't have anywhere near the experience he does with elk. I can only discuss my experience with a 300 wm + 215 Berger loaded @2875 fps does to elk (leaves them very dead).</p><p></p><p>Although I've only been hunting 30 years, I've never seen "too dead".</p><p></p><p>Feel free to PM me if you'd like to discuss this more. I don't wish to side track this thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolf76, post: 1930329, member: 75779"] I understand your perspective. I think many would call the calibers you referenced super magnums. Things that require on oversized bolt, action, BF, uncommon parts, etc. Given the standard action cartridges 308, 06, 6.5 CM, 270, etc - most people accept magnums to be 300 wm, 7mm, 300 PRC, 338 wm - with the upper end being 338 Lapua/edge. Jumping into the cheytac, bmg, and dangerous game rifles is a different arena. The first 2 are discussed often in the ELR forum and not nearly as often in the long range forum. Also note this group of guns is often far heavier and less practical than most hunting rifles. You could make a feasible argument that magnums start with 70grs of powder. But that's a another discussion. Since the OP is talking elk, Broz has noted in many forums that the 7mm has not been as effective as the 300, despite what the paper ballistics suggests. He is well respected and can't explain 'why' there is a noticeable difference. I don't have anywhere near the experience he does with elk. I can only discuss my experience with a 300 wm + 215 Berger loaded @2875 fps does to elk (leaves them very dead). Although I've only been hunting 30 years, I've never seen "too dead". Feel free to PM me if you'd like to discuss this more. I don't wish to side track this thread. [/QUOTE]
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