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First elk hunt. Leaning toward Tikka
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<blockquote data-quote="SilentlySoaring" data-source="post: 1929862" data-attributes="member: 104889"><p>I can appreciate your dilemma. A few years ago we went on my first elk hunt in northern New Mexico. My son came with me to help pack out, and he carried a back-up rifle for me. </p><p></p><p>My rifle of choice was a Win Model 70 Super Grade in 264 Win Mag that I had purchased almost 50 years ago. I knew it like the back of my hand. Had killed a lot of deer with it, DRT. The back-up rifle was a Weatherby 300 Mag. We shoot both rifles on a 600 yard range. And both are equally accurate. </p><p></p><p>The first day of the hunt the guide got us on a herd of almost 200 elk! We ranged them at 485 to about 600 yards. As I was setting up the guide asked me what I was shooting. (He should have asked that earlier.) When I told him that I was going to use the 264 WM he suggested that I use the 300 Wby for the shot. I disagreed and we had a short discussion about a caliber he was not familiar with at the time. He then said we'd go back down the hill and catch the herd at a choke point so that I'd have a shorter shot. </p><p></p><p>Of course, the herd turned as we were hiking to that point he had in mind. There were no shots at elk that day, or the next. I should have just used the 300 Wby that day. But I was stubborn, as was he. </p><p></p><p>That night, back at the ranch house he asked to look at my rifle and commented on the pristine condition. He then asked to see the cartridge. As he was holding it he commented that it was as large as his 300 Win Mag! I told him that yes, it's the same brass, necked down a little. He then regretted not letting me take that shot. And I regretted not using the 300 Wby for the easy shot. </p><p></p><p>The point is that your outfitter has history that causes him to make the recommendation to use another caliber. You have history of shooting your rifle. Talk to him again. Explain your confidence in the gun you own and shoot today. Ask him to explain why he thinks your rifle would not be enough at ranges of 400 or less. The two of you just might come to an understanding. </p><p></p><p>Then go buy a Tikka and get it worked up for a hunt. Take both rifles with you. Decide at the moment which one is better for the task that day. And good luck on your hunt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SilentlySoaring, post: 1929862, member: 104889"] I can appreciate your dilemma. A few years ago we went on my first elk hunt in northern New Mexico. My son came with me to help pack out, and he carried a back-up rifle for me. My rifle of choice was a Win Model 70 Super Grade in 264 Win Mag that I had purchased almost 50 years ago. I knew it like the back of my hand. Had killed a lot of deer with it, DRT. The back-up rifle was a Weatherby 300 Mag. We shoot both rifles on a 600 yard range. And both are equally accurate. The first day of the hunt the guide got us on a herd of almost 200 elk! We ranged them at 485 to about 600 yards. As I was setting up the guide asked me what I was shooting. (He should have asked that earlier.) When I told him that I was going to use the 264 WM he suggested that I use the 300 Wby for the shot. I disagreed and we had a short discussion about a caliber he was not familiar with at the time. He then said we'd go back down the hill and catch the herd at a choke point so that I'd have a shorter shot. Of course, the herd turned as we were hiking to that point he had in mind. There were no shots at elk that day, or the next. I should have just used the 300 Wby that day. But I was stubborn, as was he. That night, back at the ranch house he asked to look at my rifle and commented on the pristine condition. He then asked to see the cartridge. As he was holding it he commented that it was as large as his 300 Win Mag! I told him that yes, it's the same brass, necked down a little. He then regretted not letting me take that shot. And I regretted not using the 300 Wby for the easy shot. The point is that your outfitter has history that causes him to make the recommendation to use another caliber. You have history of shooting your rifle. Talk to him again. Explain your confidence in the gun you own and shoot today. Ask him to explain why he thinks your rifle would not be enough at ranges of 400 or less. The two of you just might come to an understanding. Then go buy a Tikka and get it worked up for a hunt. Take both rifles with you. Decide at the moment which one is better for the task that day. And good luck on your hunt. [/QUOTE]
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