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<blockquote data-quote="BlazerBeam" data-source="post: 2731270" data-attributes="member: 106635"><p>I have owned a total of probably 25 Fierce rifles and had them put new barrels on a couple more that I shot out. And here is my honest assessment:</p><p></p><p>In regards to rifles there is no way to really get around the fact that "you get what you pay for." I have several full custom builds by some of the best, including Travis Stevens as mention in the OP. I feel that sometimes people buy a fierce and expect it to be what their $6000 full custom is. You can't expect that at $2K-$3K and especially when fierce is building rifles on a large scale. </p><p>However, function and accuracy should not be lacking on a $2K rifle, if it is, then Fierce needs to be able to remedy those issues without any grief. And yes, when you produce as many rifles as they do, there will be those issues in some that get out the door. There is with all of the rifles in their tier (Christiansen, Seekins, etc). I have sent two Christiansens back twice each, a Seekins that did not feed from the magazine and one that did not shoot and they rebarreled.</p><p></p><p>In the couple dozen rifles from fierce that I have owned I can honestly say that every single one of them has shot tiny groups. I do agree with a post above that a lot of people who buy these middle tier rifles are not capable of shooting 1/2" groups, and get frustrated and blame the rifle when really it's probably their technique, optics mounting, or setup at the range. I've seen horrendous things at the range from people who have a $5000 setup and fling 2-3" groups at 100 yrds and think it's the rifle when you know **** well it's them. </p><p>Also as far as "issues" with the rifles, I have only had 1 in about 25ish rifles and that was that on a hot load my fierce rival 28 nosler would not extract the brass from the chamber. Back the load off and it did not do this. This rival was like the 6th one that they ever built and I have had about 6-7 rivals since then and they all have been great. As far as fit and finish issues, some of them have come with the barrel a little off center in the channel, or the inletting when you take the action out is a little ragged, but nothing that has been extreme and nothing that ever affected how tight all of them shoot. </p><p>As far as the customer service, I have never really needed it except with one fury 7 mag that I was having trouble getting to shoot. They connected me with John, the owner, directly and he talked it over with me and suggested that I try a certain powder and bullet combo and if that did not shoot to send it back and they would get me a new rifle. Well that powder and bullet shot very well so I did not send it back. </p><p></p><p>Some final things to think about when buying a fierce:</p><p></p><p>1. They shoot very well. They are saami chambers though and are targeted at guys who are shooting factory ammo and so sometimes it has taken some work to tune a handload. </p><p></p><p>2. They are NOT a custom rifle in the sense that we talk about custom rifles, no matter what they advertise. So don't expect the fit and finish to be that of your custom builds, however it has been pretty good overall for me on the rifles that I have had. </p><p></p><p>3. Remember: you get what you pay for. So it's worthy of your thoughts to ask the question as to why a build from Travis costs $5800 and why a rifle from Fierce is $2400. What does Fierce give up to be able to do that price that Travis does not give up? To me it's not accuracy that they give up, but it sounds like they lack in customer service and responsiveness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BlazerBeam, post: 2731270, member: 106635"] I have owned a total of probably 25 Fierce rifles and had them put new barrels on a couple more that I shot out. And here is my honest assessment: In regards to rifles there is no way to really get around the fact that “you get what you pay for.” I have several full custom builds by some of the best, including Travis Stevens as mention in the OP. I feel that sometimes people buy a fierce and expect it to be what their $6000 full custom is. You can’t expect that at $2K-$3K and especially when fierce is building rifles on a large scale. However, function and accuracy should not be lacking on a $2K rifle, if it is, then Fierce needs to be able to remedy those issues without any grief. And yes, when you produce as many rifles as they do, there will be those issues in some that get out the door. There is with all of the rifles in their tier (Christiansen, Seekins, etc). I have sent two Christiansens back twice each, a Seekins that did not feed from the magazine and one that did not shoot and they rebarreled. In the couple dozen rifles from fierce that I have owned I can honestly say that every single one of them has shot tiny groups. I do agree with a post above that a lot of people who buy these middle tier rifles are not capable of shooting 1/2” groups, and get frustrated and blame the rifle when really it’s probably their technique, optics mounting, or setup at the range. I’ve seen horrendous things at the range from people who have a $5000 setup and fling 2-3” groups at 100 yrds and think it’s the rifle when you know **** well it’s them. Also as far as “issues” with the rifles, I have only had 1 in about 25ish rifles and that was that on a hot load my fierce rival 28 nosler would not extract the brass from the chamber. Back the load off and it did not do this. This rival was like the 6th one that they ever built and I have had about 6-7 rivals since then and they all have been great. As far as fit and finish issues, some of them have come with the barrel a little off center in the channel, or the inletting when you take the action out is a little ragged, but nothing that has been extreme and nothing that ever affected how tight all of them shoot. As far as the customer service, I have never really needed it except with one fury 7 mag that I was having trouble getting to shoot. They connected me with John, the owner, directly and he talked it over with me and suggested that I try a certain powder and bullet combo and if that did not shoot to send it back and they would get me a new rifle. Well that powder and bullet shot very well so I did not send it back. Some final things to think about when buying a fierce: 1. They shoot very well. They are saami chambers though and are targeted at guys who are shooting factory ammo and so sometimes it has taken some work to tune a handload. 2. They are NOT a custom rifle in the sense that we talk about custom rifles, no matter what they advertise. So don’t expect the fit and finish to be that of your custom builds, however it has been pretty good overall for me on the rifles that I have had. 3. Remember: you get what you pay for. So it’s worthy of your thoughts to ask the question as to why a build from Travis costs $5800 and why a rifle from Fierce is $2400. What does Fierce give up to be able to do that price that Travis does not give up? To me it’s not accuracy that they give up, but it sounds like they lack in customer service and responsiveness. [/QUOTE]
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